Michael Capps Replies To Greg Costikyan's Accusations Of Overworking Employees
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You've completely missed my point (and taken phrases out of context). For me (again, this is just me I'm talking about, not the industry) making games is more than just a job. I compeletely throw myself into it, and that gives me "pride of ownership".
Do I love it more than my family? Absolutely not.
Do I expect anyone on my staff to put in overtime without compensation? Absolutely not.
Would I consider them any less passionate simply because they worked their 40 and went home? Absolutely not.
I think maybe we're vehemently agreeing on most points.
Your also a lead level designer aren't you? Or am I mistaken
Yes, but I wasn't always. And that doesn't have any bearing on the rest of this.
Ah now see, thats the crux of things. I absolutely DO think people should whine about it. And whine loudly. Why would you ever let someone walk all over you? Just because I care about something doesn't mean that I want it to consume me. Just because I'm passionate, that doesn't give my employer the right to take advantage of me.
IMO, take a stance. Just be sure that you're not speaking from assumptions or second hand knolwedge.
My whole point in defending Mike / Epic is that I think Epic is the exception to all this craziness; but because Mike spoke out about it, he's being (unjustly) villifed. He does not deserve to be the scapegoat. There's a lot of venom directed toward him in these forums by people who have absolutely no understanding of him, what he does, or often times, how the industry even works. He is not the reason you didn't like UT. He is not the reason that Epic has made business decisions that you do not agree with. He is certainly not a "dickhead manager" (or whatever that quote was that started all this). Quite the opposite in fact, on all accounts.
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pessimist
Not pessimist. Creating games is hard work. You should know this.
I don't accept people labeling my line of work as something that cannot be called work.
Fair enough, I was probably misunderstanding something then.You've completely missed my point (and taken phrases out of context). For me (again, this is just me I'm talking about, not the industry) making games is more than just a job. I compeletely throw myself into it, and that gives me "pride of ownership".
Do I love it more than my family? Absolutely not.
Do I expect anyone on my staff to put in overtime without compensation? Absolutely not.
Would I consider them any less passionate simply because they worked their 40 and went home? Absolutely not.
I think maybe we're vehemently agreeing on most points.
I guess I'm just starting to think I let leads walk over me to much, maybe I just don't care cause I enjoy my work too much, either way I see I need to get my priorities in check XD
For me it's not so much that I absolutely refuse to work overtime, but a lot of the time it seems like crunch is practically built into the schedule, which I find absolutely unacceptable.
That I can completely agree with. It does seem like over kill when we are scheduled for a time weeks in the future, and again just like bad management XD
Pff... my awesomeness is more than enough reward.
FYI, I wasn't labeling your line of work as something that cannot be called work. Just stating that things go down hill when you're labeling things as "work".
One step back elmuerte. Things start to go downhill when people offer other people money to do what they love.
Things start to go downhill when people offer other people money to do what they love.
Wait... that's a bit ambiguous. Who is "they"? Also, for who are things going down hill? The person paying or the person receiving? And what are things?
And, to add injury to insult. Work is like an uphill battle, so going downhill makes "things" easier.
(Anybody not getting confused?)
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Don't agree. There need to be strings attached.
Without attached strings, it will just be a loose thread.
(Yeah, trying to mix proper reply with random nonsense. Life is like teen movie: a series of awkward and funny events; with a bit of drama and tragedy.)