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Benfica

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The CPU is fine, mine also has 2MB cache, just an higher fsb. Overclock it's ass off :D

I have these suggestions then:

$75: Video NVidia 9600GSO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130437
$30: Patriot 2GB RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220144
$85: Motherboard Asus P5QL Pro http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131329

Overclock the CPU and graphics card and you will have a system like mine. It should give you at least 50 to 90fps @ 1280x960, decent to high-settings, Windows XP :)
 
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KillerSkaarj

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Ohhh no, I now have an extreme hatred for Nvidia. I'm staying as far from them as possible and going ATI. Also, someone suggested a cheaper motherboard to me and I think it looks good. I don't want anything too expensive because I literally have to gut the whole computer and fill it with new parts and I don't want to go too expensive.
 

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Ohhh no, I now have an extreme hatred for Nvidia. I'm staying as far from them as possible and going ATI. Also, someone suggested a cheaper motherboard to me and I think it looks good. I don't want anything too expensive because I literally have to gut the whole computer and fill it with new parts and I don't want to go too expensive.

Hatred can cloud your judgement. ATI and UT3 doesn't gow well together from what I've seen.
 

KillerSkaarj

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Hatred can cloud your judgement. ATI and UT3 doesn't gow well together from what I've seen.

Really? Well dang, that really turns everything around. The nv4_disp.dll errors are probably from my video card being too tiny.

Alright, I'll give it a try. But I swear to you if I get more than three nv4_disp.dll errors with it I'm buying an ATI card, regardless.

EDIT: WOW!! I looked and found out that the items you selected, combined with the items I was going to buy, is only slightly more expensive, by only $6. I'm definitely buying those now, except for the RAM. I think I'll go with Kingston instead. Thanks anyways, though!
 
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*sigh* Read this: http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=2290267&enterthread=y

Oh yeah, and I could really care less about any other games. The only games that I care about are the ones that were released recently that I can't play because of my low specs especially UT3.

Playing games doesn't necessarily mean paying craploads of money just to play games. It sounds like you want me to go higher and spend well over $500 just to play a game. And instead of saying "Oh, it's gonna run crap", at least give me an estimate for the kind of FPS I'll get instead of being vague. If this setup will get me 30 FPS, then it's good enough for me.

The thing is, a lot of people are saying that the CPU is fine and just overclock it and you will be set. But as you have proven your knowledge of pc hardware is very limited, so overclocking when you dont know what your doing could be very disastrous. And you also said you want to try your hand at mapping, but running the game on bare minimum settings isnt going to help you in the process and give you false results.

I think you need to think alittle bit more on what is the right hardware for what you want to do. Wait a few months for the prices to drop and get yourself a job while your waiting.
 

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But the motherboard is fantastic for the price, and unfortunately being cheap here impacts performance, stability, features and overclock capability. :)
This is the main reason I'm advocating a more expensive Core 2 Duo. Especially with...
And you also said you want to try your hand at mapping, but running the game on bare minimum settings isnt going to help you in the process and give you false results.
The editor will run like ASS on that system. It easily uses at least 50% more resources than you need to play the game. Expect, among other things:

  • Extremely long build times! Possibly hours, like back in the day!
  • High temperatures during core stress, going hand in hand with the above
  • Possible crashes due to overclocking - UnrealEd is fussy like that.
And oh yeah... the full editor doesn't display at 1024x768 - some of the buttons and such will be chopped off. That's one of the reasons I'm getting a newer monitor. I think the minimum rez for everything to show up is 1280x1024.

I know you hate the fact that the C2D is so "expensive" but realistically, that CPU is insanely good for its price. And it's a world of difference compared to that Pentium Dual-Core.

Scrape up some jobs to get that extra money if you can. Trust me... you'll be thankful for it later, even if you have to go through a bit of hell now.
 
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KillerSkaarj

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Fine then, I won't use the editor, I jsut wanna play the freaking game.

Plus, I have heard numerous (and I mean A LOT) reports that people got decent framerates using an overclocked E5200. I don't want the game to look good, I just want to play the ***ing game. Why should I spend hundreds dollars for one part just to play the game when I can buy something for cheaper and enjoy the game with it? I'm following the back of the freaking game case itself. If you want to go out and buy $200 parts so your game would have ludicrous framerates on everything set to very high, then you could do that. I, however, would rather have the game look like crap than to not be able to play it at all.

Y'see, this is why I prefer consoles. You just go out, buy the damn console and the game, hook the console up, and you're off playing the game. No need to spend hundreds of dollars every year just to play the newest games. It's too bad that buying a PS3 and UT3 is almost exactly the same price as building a new computer with newly bought parts. And you PC nuts are going around tooting your horn about how the PC is the best when it's the only option costing you hundreds of dollars a year just to play some games when you could just spend the $200+ dollars once and then you're set until the next console release.

And then you have people trying to convince you to spend even more money just to play a game. Doesn't the word "budget" mean anything to you?
 
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I play UT3 in 1680x1050 w/ everything max using a PentiumD 805*, 8800GT 512MB (not oc), Audigy Plat (for the EAX), and 4gb ram. Every map runs fine. Most run fine enough that I can fraps while playing @ 30fps (which isn't bad considering Fraps caps fps @ 30 when recording).
I'm not an LD so I don't rebuild maps, but I can use UEd for what I do quickly and easily.
So far everything I've thrown at this runs well on max. FO3 also runs just as well w/ same settings. I don't have Crysis btw. HD (1280x720 and above) avis stutter sometimes but I think it may be sw.

Most of my stuff I bought OEM, which saved a few $$. This is a good idea if you don't need shiny boxes to clutter your room or manuals and drivers you can both get from the vendor's site.

*I got this cpu bc of a guide on Tom's about how much it can be OC'd given a decent water cooling (~4Ghz). Just haven't gotten the cooling yet.
Like this guy did.
 
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Dark Pulse

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Fine then, I won't use the editor, I jsut wanna play the freaking game.

Plus, I have heard numerous (and I mean A LOT) reports that people got decent framerates using an overclocked E5200. I don't want the game to look good, I just want to play the ***ing game. Why should I spend hundreds dollars for one part just to play the game when I can buy something for cheaper and enjoy the game with it? I'm following the back of the freaking game case itself. If you want to go out and buy $200 parts so your game would have ludicrous framerates on everything set to very high, then you could do that. I, however, would rather have the game look like crap than to not be able to play it at all.

Y'see, this is why I prefer consoles. You just go out, buy the damn console and the game, hook the console up, and you're off playing the game. No need to spend hundreds of dollars every year just to play the newest games. It's too bad that buying a PS3 and UT3 is almost exactly the same price as building a new computer with newly bought parts. And you PC nuts are going around tooting your horn about how the PC is the best when it's the only option costing you hundreds of dollars a year just to play some games when you could just spend the $200+ dollars once and then you're set until the next console release.

And then you have people trying to convince you to spend even more money just to play a game. Doesn't the word "budget" mean anything to you?
Minimum specs are utterly laughable, and will barely give an acceptable performance. You seem to not care that the performance will be only borderline playable, so then that's fine for you, I suppose. Me, 30 FPS would be borderline UNPLAYABLE. Especially if I play the game online. Framerate is your life, especially online, and between two evenly skilled guys, one who gets 90 FPS will in all likelihood do better than one who gets 30, for the simple fact that the 90 FPS guy is seeing his opponent move three times as smoothly.

And while I see your point, you're basically doing stopgap measures, as that CPU won't be able to run any of the newer games for much longer. Then you're going to need to pay again on something newer, and voila, there's the "extra" money you're "wasting" on a "newer" CPU. And I doubt it'll be for that platform - Intel's newer CPUs will be for the most part on the LGA 1366/Core i7 platform. Which, by the way, means not only a newer motherboard, but also likely newer RAM.

You can skimp on the RAM (both in terms of amount and even in type - a few Core i7 boards do support DDR2) and maybe even a videocard to a degree, but the one thing you never want to cheap out on once you know how to build PCs is your CPU. Period. You must not work or have any sort of real cash flow if you cannot afford something only $100 cheaper. It's not like I'm telling you "That 9600 GS sucks, go buy a $400 GTX 295." Granted, the people who buy the Extreme Edition versions are idiots in my book... there's usually a sweet spot of price/performance, and that's lately been around $200.

Also, before Zynthetic's post gives you the wrong ideas (since you're likely to see that her CPU has the higher clock rate and thus better) the E5200 you had picked out is better than her Pentium D 805 - yours is based on the Core technology, while her 805 is P6 (Netburst, AKA Pentium 4) based. Your CPU is more efficient and kicks less heat than hers does.

But hey, I'm the guy who's trying to get you to blow OUTRAGEOUS amounts of money on a CPU, so what do I know? :rolleyes:
 
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Benfica

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Dark Pulse said:
That 9600 GS sucks
It could be better yes, but that card at $55 is a great deal for someone that is on a budget. That's a 512MB 256-bit card with 48 shaders. The only difference to a 9600gt is that this one has 64, everything else is the same.

I played fine on a 8600gt, 256MB RAM, 128-bit, 32 shaders, at 1024x768 and the recomended card is vastly superior.
 
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I played fine on a 8600gt, 256MB RAM, 128-bit, 32 shaders, at 1024x768 and the recomended card is vastly superior.
256MB of video RAM is not enough even for UT3. Previously I had such videocard, UT3 uses more than 256MB of video RAM on highest settings, that's for sure. Don't even think about high graphics settings in Crysis, etc w/ 256MB.
 

Benfica

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256MB of video RAM is not enough even for UT3. Previously I had such videocard, UT3 uses more than 256MB of video RAM on highest settings, that's for sure. Don't even think about high graphics settings in Crysis, etc w/ 256MB.
Sure, but I'm not talking about highest settings or any other game :) I barely play any other game, I spent a few weeks total on ETQW + Bioshock + HL2 + TF2 + Portal. The card wasn't holding me back with texture detail=4 world detail=2 @ 1152x864
 
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Just to add, I recently built a budget system for a guy consisting of E5200, 4gig of RAM and a 512mb ATI 4830

I wan't expecting too much from this sub €500 system but it completely amazed me. Crysis at 1680x1050 full settings was very playable, in fact it breezed over everything I installed.

That's before I overclocked it. Highly recommended.

For me, Im holding out until I can afford a decent quad core for 3d max etc
 

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