Request to open CTF-Dagnys-Tubes-Of-Spam for comment
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i dont have time to read everything since im at work, but at some of the things i did read, i simply
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have a nice day !
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have a nice day !
|ChAoS|Merlin said:
i remember prophet saying in a review comment for imago that the score should be 50/100, not higher, soooo...
Is this thread still going on?
"try to be more objective and understanding of the fact that not everyone has countless hours to read up on how to use Ued properly, let alone spent the time needed to make a pro level map."
The effort really doesn't matter and no reviewer is going to consider this in their review. It's the final product that counts, whether you worked 1 hour or 200 hours on it!
Dagny, whether you are offended by these comments or not, a lot of the suggestions in this thread should be used for your next map. If you're really serious about mapping then drop the attitude and maybe these guys can actually help you. If you're completely turned off by the supposed attitude here, then try UnrealPlayground or another review site.
"try to be more objective and understanding of the fact that not everyone has countless hours to read up on how to use Ued properly, let alone spent the time needed to make a pro level map."
The effort really doesn't matter and no reviewer is going to consider this in their review. It's the final product that counts, whether you worked 1 hour or 200 hours on it!
Dagny, whether you are offended by these comments or not, a lot of the suggestions in this thread should be used for your next map. If you're really serious about mapping then drop the attitude and maybe these guys can actually help you. If you're completely turned off by the supposed attitude here, then try UnrealPlayground or another review site.
AMmayhem said:Have you guys read some of the posts in here? It's absolutey hilarious!
This thread has been LMFAO! Here's one of my favorite quotes, courtesy of Mr. Prophet:
Don't you take a dump in a box and try to tell the Baker that you made a truffle.
i almost pissed myself at the "tighter than a 2 year olds *****" comment in the review, i must say
i can't say ass and bitch in my reviews without it getting censored, so I go around the rules and try to saying something crude without the use of profainity.
Working well so far, I hope Mass does not catch on...
Working well so far, I hope Mass does not catch on...
2 things
My map (note map not even maps yet)
stinks!
I have not learned to use teh tools yet..
I can only think about with a deep feeling of horror what it would be like to make a map as bad as mine and not realize how bad it is, to some how twist my own perception to such a warped view of my own acheivements as they compare to the achievments of others. It must be liek living in hell and not knowing it..
Or,
He could just be a reaction troll.
What does that have to do with the quote below?
The guys who made teh Unreal faimly of games Own. I just want to make one good map. But I would never presume to harshly judge their hard work, as it compares to mine. That's simply foolish.
My map (note map not even maps yet)
stinks!
I have not learned to use teh tools yet..
I can only think about with a deep feeling of horror what it would be like to make a map as bad as mine and not realize how bad it is, to some how twist my own perception to such a warped view of my own acheivements as they compare to the achievments of others. It must be liek living in hell and not knowing it..
Or,
He could just be a reaction troll.
What does that have to do with the quote below?
The guys who made teh Unreal faimly of games Own. I just want to make one good map. But I would never presume to harshly judge their hard work, as it compares to mine. That's simply foolish.
Hourences said:
My problem with the way Nalicity reviews maps is this:
To me a 0 map = Noob mapper
a 10 map = as good or better than the original maps
IMO this makes Dagnys map is about a 4, but to make fun of the guy because he actually thought he made a good map rather than simply tell him why it isnt that good and help him to improve his mapping skills or lack there of, I find it offensive that Mr. Prophet thinks its ok to paste a picture of himself making a gay comment to the mapper, rather than just realizing everyone has to build their way up to making great maps. One bad apple can spoil the whole bunch.
Funny the Prophet says "We are not better than you are" but calls himself Mr. Prophet and is refered to as Teh Prophet, feels he can put down and make fun of anyone he likes, and make statements like " This map really,really,really,really, sucks, or " High quality, Right" and so on.
From what I've read, I think rather than letting anyone submit maps for review, something should be said to let beginer mappers know not to submit a map unless they and my others feel it is atleast as good as the original maps. I wonder how Cliffy B would feel if he knew you guys thought Codex of Wisdom was a 5.5 and Imago a 7.
To me a 0 map = Noob mapper
a 10 map = as good or better than the original maps
IMO this makes Dagnys map is about a 4, but to make fun of the guy because he actually thought he made a good map rather than simply tell him why it isnt that good and help him to improve his mapping skills or lack there of, I find it offensive that Mr. Prophet thinks its ok to paste a picture of himself making a gay comment to the mapper, rather than just realizing everyone has to build their way up to making great maps. One bad apple can spoil the whole bunch.
Funny the Prophet says "We are not better than you are" but calls himself Mr. Prophet and is refered to as Teh Prophet, feels he can put down and make fun of anyone he likes, and make statements like " This map really,really,really,really, sucks, or " High quality, Right" and so on.
From what I've read, I think rather than letting anyone submit maps for review, something should be said to let beginer mappers know not to submit a map unless they and my others feel it is atleast as good as the original maps. I wonder how Cliffy B would feel if he knew you guys thought Codex of Wisdom was a 5.5 and Imago a 7.
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Mxtrmntr
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Referring to the original maps/10 rating etc thing: Is it possible to mention "the original maps" as a whole concerning quality? I mean, a map like DM-Fetid or DM-Pyramid deserves a very low score, while Phobos and Codex are still very good after all these years. The NC scale has nothing to do with the original maps, they'd all fit into it at different places.
My problem with the way Nalicity reviews maps is this
*sigh*
To me a 0 map = Noob mapper
To the accepted norm for NC community reviews, a 0 is a map that doesn't run or is a virtual waste of time (a subtracted box with one player start and that is all is an example of this)
a 10 map = as good or better than the original maps
Well to the rest of us, we understand that the stock maps are simply that, stock maps. I stopped playing them a long time ago, why? because there are better maps made for the game now. The average stock map would be worth around a 5 if I rated it, though a few are worse than that, and maybe 1 or 2 are better (codex was the only DM I continued to play from the stock selection for a long time after the game was released.
IMO this makes Dagnys map is about a 4
Fine.
but to make fun of the guy because he actually thought he made a good map rather than simply tell him why it isnt that good and help him to improve his mapping skills or lack there of
Yeah, we did that, he didn't want to listen and he, like you, assume it is flame.
I find it offensive that Mr. Prophet thinks its ok to paste a picture of himself making a gay comment to the mapper
You find it offensive? You? Who the hell are you to be offended by that pic? You are like a whiney religious bitch who protests whenever a show has gay kissing and you find it "offesive". Get the hell outta my face, YOU find it offensive. I bet if I ask Dagny he won't find it "offensive", you little cupcake Merlin.
rather than just realizing everyone has to build their way up to making great maps.
Yea because that concept is soooo lost to me right. No sh!t Mr. Wizard, thanks for your invaluable input. Everybody starts with a crappy map, but it's little puss-weasels like you who will jerk off every new mapper that comes your way because you are afraid of hurting their feelings. Some people can take criticism, others apparantly can't.
One bad apple can spoil the whole bunch.
Yep. I am a piece of rotten fruit laying back against a backdrop of rosey peaches right? Get your head out of the ground.
Funny the Prophet says "We are not better than you are" but calls himself Mr. Prophet and is refered to as Teh Prophet
Oh so I should drop the Mr. title and call myself by a cooler name, like a wizard or so? Would that make me seem less arrogant? You think I wear a crown and ceptor too? What really is "Funny" is that you are too stupid to notice a joke when it climbs up sticks its un-circumcized penis into your ear canal while chanting "The Juice Is Loose!".
feels he can put down and make fun of anyone he likes, and make statements like " This map really,really,really,really, sucks, or " High quality, Right" and so on.
Cry me a river sweetheart. Why am I always targeted for this crap? All of a sudden I'm the only guy in the community who tells it like it is? You have people all around you are doing it, why, OH WHY, do you feel the need to focus all your rage on me Mr. Wizard? Did I review a map of yours long ago and give you a bad score because it sucked and you are mad?
From what I've read
Give me a break, read it again punk.
I wonder how Cliffy B would feel if he knew you guys thought Codex of Wisdom was a 5.5 and Imago a 7.
Codex is an old map. Imago was reviewed along time ago. And you need to pick a better example to rant about. And only one reviewer gave Imago a 7. There are user comments on the map that differ considerably, mine especially.
*sigh*
To me a 0 map = Noob mapper
To the accepted norm for NC community reviews, a 0 is a map that doesn't run or is a virtual waste of time (a subtracted box with one player start and that is all is an example of this)
a 10 map = as good or better than the original maps
Well to the rest of us, we understand that the stock maps are simply that, stock maps. I stopped playing them a long time ago, why? because there are better maps made for the game now. The average stock map would be worth around a 5 if I rated it, though a few are worse than that, and maybe 1 or 2 are better (codex was the only DM I continued to play from the stock selection for a long time after the game was released.
IMO this makes Dagnys map is about a 4
Fine.
but to make fun of the guy because he actually thought he made a good map rather than simply tell him why it isnt that good and help him to improve his mapping skills or lack there of
Yeah, we did that, he didn't want to listen and he, like you, assume it is flame.
I find it offensive that Mr. Prophet thinks its ok to paste a picture of himself making a gay comment to the mapper
You find it offensive? You? Who the hell are you to be offended by that pic? You are like a whiney religious bitch who protests whenever a show has gay kissing and you find it "offesive". Get the hell outta my face, YOU find it offensive. I bet if I ask Dagny he won't find it "offensive", you little cupcake Merlin.
rather than just realizing everyone has to build their way up to making great maps.
Yea because that concept is soooo lost to me right. No sh!t Mr. Wizard, thanks for your invaluable input. Everybody starts with a crappy map, but it's little puss-weasels like you who will jerk off every new mapper that comes your way because you are afraid of hurting their feelings. Some people can take criticism, others apparantly can't.
One bad apple can spoil the whole bunch.
Yep. I am a piece of rotten fruit laying back against a backdrop of rosey peaches right? Get your head out of the ground.
Funny the Prophet says "We are not better than you are" but calls himself Mr. Prophet and is refered to as Teh Prophet
Oh so I should drop the Mr. title and call myself by a cooler name, like a wizard or so? Would that make me seem less arrogant? You think I wear a crown and ceptor too? What really is "Funny" is that you are too stupid to notice a joke when it climbs up sticks its un-circumcized penis into your ear canal while chanting "The Juice Is Loose!".
feels he can put down and make fun of anyone he likes, and make statements like " This map really,really,really,really, sucks, or " High quality, Right" and so on.
Cry me a river sweetheart. Why am I always targeted for this crap? All of a sudden I'm the only guy in the community who tells it like it is? You have people all around you are doing it, why, OH WHY, do you feel the need to focus all your rage on me Mr. Wizard? Did I review a map of yours long ago and give you a bad score because it sucked and you are mad?
From what I've read
Give me a break, read it again punk.
I wonder how Cliffy B would feel if he knew you guys thought Codex of Wisdom was a 5.5 and Imago a 7.
Codex is an old map. Imago was reviewed along time ago. And you need to pick a better example to rant about. And only one reviewer gave Imago a 7. There are user comments on the map that differ considerably, mine especially.
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Ok Mr. Wizard, got a question for you, amazing if you answer it:
You say Dagny's map is a 4
You say Codex is a 10
What would you give Imago?
You say Dagny's map is a 4
You say Codex is a 10
What would you give Imago?
|ChAoS|Merlin said:
Notice the word average.
Codex -was- roughly a 7 -back- then. Nowadays, it would be given a 5, probably. Imago was given a 7. Nowadays, it would be given a 5-7
The thing is, codex was made when maps had to be of a certain polycount. Imago had less limitation and thruss is a better map visually than codex. Codex has better gameplay though.
Also, lay off the prophet. I can bitch just as well as he can.
The truth is, he has earnt that kind of respect, and rightly so. You and about three other sore losers can say "He is a ****wipe" all you like, but the fact is that he is a decent mapper, and a funny, sick, pervert
Well in reply to your questions Prophet, #1 yes I did do a map which you gave a low score, but that was'nt the problem it deserved a low score, what it did'nt deserver was your gay style of humor, " This map scares teh Prophet." #2 if you consider Codex a 10 then as I have commented on your map Imago it is a 7 IMO really not a bad map at all, but If you think Codex is a 5, well then I would have to revise the rating on Imago and call it a 3. As far as not all the original maps being 10's that is BS, even if you dont like Fetid it was still considered a good enough map to be included in the game with all the others, Take some advice from your own Hourence dude and dont try to act as if you know more than the game makers themselves.
PS, the Merlin which I take my nick from is much more than a Wizard, he is a Prince of Amber and a Lord of Chaos. Read the Amber Chronicles by Roger Zelazny you may enjoy them.
PS, the Merlin which I take my nick from is much more than a Wizard, he is a Prince of Amber and a Lord of Chaos. Read the Amber Chronicles by Roger Zelazny you may enjoy them.
|ChAoS|Merlin said:
Fetid and Pyramid weren't part of the tournament ladder though, so obviously they didnt think they were good as the rest
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