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Personnally, i don't "leave INF" because the dev team decided to go to the steam thing, i will just continue to play the UT version from time to time that's all.
In fact it is INF that is leaving the boat not me
.Even if it does not concern me anymore, maybe you will find something interesting in the following :
When i was looking for an AI dedicaced forum (with no specific game in mind), i found this board that seems to regroup several AI coders for different half life mod.
Then giving a deeper look, as even if half life does not have my interest i like to learn more about AI, i learnt that there was a tool named Metamod that allowed to create "minimods" in half life modifications.
An example of those minimods i found by browsing those forums, can be found there
Maybe something similar exist for the HL2 modifications, and could be a possibility to create "mutators"-like work for the next opus of Infiltration.
i really dont understand why you claim you are leaving because of a engine choice.
even if the thing is evil to you,
as long as you can load a game with inf HL2 and get to a server , thats all what matters.
you remind me the nerds who rock linux because of "evil bill gates'.
wannabe che guevarra attitude
i dont have a computer able to run this,but im not saying im leaving;i know i will upgrade my comp or buy one. when you love you dont look at the price!
even if the thing is evil to you,
as long as you can load a game with inf HL2 and get to a server , thats all what matters.
you remind me the nerds who rock linux because of "evil bill gates'.
wannabe che guevarra attitude
i dont have a computer able to run this,but im not saying im leaving;i know i will upgrade my comp or buy one. when you love you dont look at the price!
I will leave Infiltration when it no longe delivers the fun factor, Actually I have stepped away once already when interesting things began to happen.
Hopefully FieldMedic is correct and a system for third party content can be acheived. Sorry but that is one of the major differences between Infiltration and those others that I admire. Without the community chipping in there is less interest for me in this great simulator.
Hopefully FieldMedic is correct and a system for third party content can be acheived. Sorry but that is one of the major differences between Infiltration and those others that I admire. Without the community chipping in there is less interest for me in this great simulator.
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**** mutators. What needs to happen is - SS needs to be punctual about their releases. They need to make a solid gametype that never gets old. Then, they need to update every month or two - adding new maps, etc.
The only reason the majority of this community has such a boner for mutators is because the official team hardly ever releases content (which is bad). Mutators have been the only source for new content for at least 90% of this ride...
I welcome the change. Steam is a great app. This will make it much easier to update the game.
The problem with mutators is that they're a 'quick fix' more than they are used for adding content. If somebody finds a huge bug, the team releases a mutator. Then they release another mutator thirteen minutes later (when they find out the original mutator did something wrong), but the majority of the servers are still running the first mutie. So whenever you want to play on certain servers, you have to restart INF to download x version. This kind of stuff happens all the time in INF with fixes, game-types, etc and it's not fun.
Instead of re-compiling the game with all of the new content/bugfixes/community mods, INF 2.9 now has something like ten required mutators - except for maybe on the German servers (which mostly run Vanilla 2.9). That's just silly. With all of the things that have been done within the past year, we should be at INF2.9.3 at least. Yet, there is no recompiled download with these massive updates...
I don't know about you, but I hate this. I imagine new players find this very frustrating.
Sure, it's fun to be able to make 'your own' gun I suppose. But, if the team supplied us with enough content to begin with - we wouldn't need to.
I believe SS will learn from any mistakes and make a killer game on the Source engine. I'm nothing but optimistic at this point and wish them luck.
The lot of you 'refusing' to play the next INF should just pull the dicks out of your asses and buy HL2. Steam isn't nearly as bad as you all think it is and the government isn't trying to monitor how much you play the game. If your excuse is 'I don't have a fast internet connection', then that's your problem. If you don't have an internet connection at all - I would first question 'how are you posting?' and then, I would suggest a plethora of 'free trial' internet services you could use to register your copy of the game.
Stop with the 'I'm not happy - I'm leaving and you'll regret this!' posts. If you are honestly silly enough to quit playing the game strictly because of an app you haven't even used then so be it. The majority of the 'I refuse to' people around here don't even know what Steam is, and if they do, have never used it.
I haven't had a single problem with Steam in the year that I've used it. Not one. At the very least, try it out before you 'refuse to change'.
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**** mutators. What needs to happen is - SS needs to be punctual about their releases. They need to make a solid gametype that never gets old. Then, they need to update every month or two - adding new maps, etc.
The only reason the majority of this community has such a boner for mutators is because the official team hardly ever releases content (which is bad). Mutators have been the only source for new content for at least 90% of this ride...
I welcome the change. Steam is a great app. This will make it much easier to update the game.
The problem with mutators is that they're a 'quick fix' more than they are used for adding content. If somebody finds a huge bug, the team releases a mutator. Then they release another mutator thirteen minutes later (when they find out the original mutator did something wrong), but the majority of the servers are still running the first mutie. So whenever you want to play on certain servers, you have to restart INF to download x version. This kind of stuff happens all the time in INF with fixes, game-types, etc and it's not fun.
Instead of re-compiling the game with all of the new content/bugfixes/community mods, INF 2.9 now has something like ten required mutators - except for maybe on the German servers (which mostly run Vanilla 2.9). That's just silly. With all of the things that have been done within the past year, we should be at INF2.9.3 at least. Yet, there is no recompiled download with these massive updates...
I don't know about you, but I hate this. I imagine new players find this very frustrating.
Sure, it's fun to be able to make 'your own' gun I suppose. But, if the team supplied us with enough content to begin with - we wouldn't need to.
I believe SS will learn from any mistakes and make a killer game on the Source engine. I'm nothing but optimistic at this point and wish them luck.
The lot of you 'refusing' to play the next INF should just pull the dicks out of your asses and buy HL2. Steam isn't nearly as bad as you all think it is and the government isn't trying to monitor how much you play the game. If your excuse is 'I don't have a fast internet connection', then that's your problem. If you don't have an internet connection at all - I would first question 'how are you posting?' and then, I would suggest a plethora of 'free trial' internet services you could use to register your copy of the game.
Stop with the 'I'm not happy - I'm leaving and you'll regret this!' posts. If you are honestly silly enough to quit playing the game strictly because of an app you haven't even used then so be it. The majority of the 'I refuse to' people around here don't even know what Steam is, and if they do, have never used it.
I haven't had a single problem with Steam in the year that I've used it. Not one. At the very least, try it out before you 'refuse to change'.
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First while I have really no issues with Steam as a concept there are serious issues with it. The patching system really needs to be rethought out. For me that is the only problem but I know many other people with much more serious problems.
Hopefully Dteam will get fixed.
As for mutators. I do agree with using them as patches is not a good idea. There needs to be rethinking on that.
About new content. I totaly disagree. I don't care how comprehesive SS is with their new version there will also be something interesting and new the community can contribute. If it were not for the new maps and the new weapons I would have been out of here a long time ago. I have yet to purchase a game or play a mod that I thought was perfect right out of the box.
I am not going to jump and down crying out saying do it my way or I leave because frankly no one would give a **** if I do and it is rather childish. SS must understand though why some of the community members are still here and taken that into consideration when designing.
As for the current mutator situation there needs to be a central location for everything including a list of what each public server is running along with what version including reliable links to each. Combatmaps is the closest to such a system.
My biggest issue at the monment is finding these damn beta maps.
Hopefully Dteam will get fixed.
As for mutators. I do agree with using them as patches is not a good idea. There needs to be rethinking on that.
About new content. I totaly disagree. I don't care how comprehesive SS is with their new version there will also be something interesting and new the community can contribute. If it were not for the new maps and the new weapons I would have been out of here a long time ago. I have yet to purchase a game or play a mod that I thought was perfect right out of the box.
I am not going to jump and down crying out saying do it my way or I leave because frankly no one would give a **** if I do and it is rather childish. SS must understand though why some of the community members are still here and taken that into consideration when designing.
As for the current mutator situation there needs to be a central location for everything including a list of what each public server is running along with what version including reliable links to each. Combatmaps is the closest to such a system.
My biggest issue at the monment is finding these damn beta maps.
If I would be able to put my dick in my own ass; why in the world would I have a need for HL2, heck why should I have a need for any game or a computer for that matter?cracwhore said:
Steam could be the best programmed pice of software that ever existed and it wouldn't change a damn for people who refuse it's concept.cracwhore said:
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Hadmar said:
And exactly what is this concept that is so deporable? Really people, this is the only complain I've heard that I can't understand. I can understand not liking it because it requires an internet connection to play the game. I can understand not liking it because it is buggy. I can understand not liking it because it messed up charging your credit card. But not liking steam because of this vague "concept" idea that is being thrown out doesn't make any sense. What do you mean by it? Do you not like having patches automatically installed for you? Do you not like have a single launcher for multiple games? Do you not like being able to download the game online and not having to leave your computer? What is this bull**** "concept" that is so horrible?
I hate automatic patching. I want to know what is being patched and if and when I want it not when they decide. Also I want to be able to download a file and install to patch if I choose to do so. This is not a concept problem but an implentation porblem that can be fixed but won't.
I do not need an application for launcing games. I have one. It is called an icon.
The biggest problem people are having is that you have to go through a central control system to play. To this day I have yet to hear a single good reason why I must.
I do not need an application for launcing games. I have one. It is called an icon.
The biggest problem people are having is that you have to go through a central control system to play. To this day I have yet to hear a single good reason why I must.
geogob
Koohii o nomimasu ka?
Don't waste your time... it's exactly why some people think macs are evil. those people will hardly ever change their minds.
geogob said:
I totally agree, some people are thinking steam is not evil, those people will hardly ever change their minds, we should not waste our time
It gives Valve rights that they don't have and don't deserve [insert more text] We had enough threads dealing with this and I don't feel like dragging this one more off topic than it already is plus repeating this stuff ad nauseum is tiring.TheNut said:
I thought you were better than this.geogob said:
geogob
Koohii o nomimasu ka?
Hadmar said:
Or maybe i simply think it is a waste of time and energy to argue over this... just like it's a waste of time and energy to argue over PC vs MAC... or BETA vs VHS... or Coke vs Pepsi...
I'm really just tired of all the empty argumentation, on both sides.
At first I was strongly against steam, but I changed my mind for various different reasons. Some people, on both sides, will simply not budge and change their minds. I think you are one of them. Not that there is anything wrong with this... holding strong to ones ideas can be a good thing in many situations.
EDIT: The server is too busy at the moment. Please try again later. - I hope I'm not the only one tired of getting this...
cracwhore said:
I wouldn't call 18 mutators 'vanilla' anymore, although the Euro Servers tend to be a quite conservative... but all run BP and WP and some more.
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Steam will: Kick your cat, runover your dog, impregnate your Grandmother, and leave you with the Support payments!!! Come on guys, can't you recognize teh eval?
No problems with Steam here and I rather like Auto-Updating as I no longer have to hunt down patches and wait inline and other crap.
No problems with Steam here and I rather like Auto-Updating as I no longer have to hunt down patches and wait inline and other crap.
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After a bit of searching on google, i found this. Can you imagine an INF soldier with bloody, red patches from bulletholes?
After a bit of searching on google, i found this. Can you imagine an INF soldier with bloody, red patches from bulletholes?
Then maybe you should make your post more clear. The way I read it it was a reference to the usual "anti-Mac for no good reason other then the fact that it's a mac" anti-Mac fanboy thingy, which is highly insulting and arrogant. If it's just a missunderstanding then fine, but I don't think the arguments on "my side" are empty.geogob said:
GG SS for picking HL2 as your next project to work on. HL2 is a very nice game, its visuals are amazing. I see no problem with steam what so ever, i used to be a person that hated steam cuz i thought that WON was a better system. But after moving into steam a few years back, i never wanted to play on WON again. If you ever played HL2, you will have an idea of what INF will look like on HL2. HL2 source is very flexible, it even works on my crapy ATI 9200 SE The engine on that game is amzing, the visuals are the best, from smoke to lights to the bump maping technology, i can see inf go far beyond that. I tried UT2004 and the game is nice, but HL2 was more appealing to my eyes. I dont care about mutators and all that mumbojumbo, all i want is my inf.
Good Luck INF, i stod by your side since 2.65 and watched it grow.
The engine on that game is amzing, the visuals are the best, from smoke to lights to the bump maping technology, i can see inf go far beyond that. I tried UT2004 and the game is nice, but HL2 was more appealing to my eyes. I dont care about mutators and all that mumbojumbo, all i want is my inf. Good Luck INF, i stod by your side since 2.65 and watched it grow.
Does no one have HL2 here? Heck, don't search for years old images. I have a nice machine, I'll be glad to take some screens.
The game is amazing, VERY stoked about next Inf.
I'm not normally one to say things like these, but when I heard the news I creamed my pants...thrice.
The game is amazing, VERY stoked about next Inf.
I'm not normally one to say things like these, but when I heard the news I creamed my pants...thrice.