M16A4 public beta release

[MP_Duke]

To be honest, i didn't like how the XM8 turned out either. I never really much liked the skin too and i've always held the view open to a prophetic black version (i just don't feel like airbrushing it myself ).
But i'd have to disagree about it being a POS performance-wise, cuz i am able to kill with it slightly with more ease than most other weapons. i guess most people are not used to the obstructiveness of the sights just like the FAMAS, but again that's just your overall unresponsiveness to change {and y'all will lose out that way eventually according to Darwin, muahaha}. To me, it's like a fat P90 with bigger bullets.

For those who still hold a negative view on the XM8 in general...here's a small commentary video http://www.hk-usa.com/video/Comments002.wmv

EEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH wrong answer. Think about this: Everyone bitched SO MUCH about the goddamn XM8, "WHAAA my ***** hurts, WHAAA its a super gun, WHAAAA this WHAAAA that WHAAA i need a tampon" but magically no one uses it!! If it was about exploiting wouldnt everyone be using it! But then again I think its a POS, maybe thats the reason

 

[MP_Duke]

I should not complain about this. I suppose it's a natural debate that arises from the attempt to blend realism into gameplay. It's like nature vs nurture, religion vs science, order vs chaos, yin vs yang, old men vs buckets of cheese--the list is long and distinguished as is my Johnson.

 

[NTKB]

OMG propaGANDA video!? No wayz! Anyway... Just cause you can kill more (which I think your lying) with it, doesnt mean anyone else can. I mean NO ONE uses it. If it was so uber and powerful alot of people who just play to win would use it!

 

[ecale3]

I really enjoy the M16A4. My only gripes are no scope, no carry handle (although this is gonna be done eventually, if i have to do it myself {god forbid} i will), and the M203 Ladder always being up is kinda annoying.

Either way it suits me just fine as a sneaky assault rifle with a good sighting system.

The XM8 ain't bad either (a tad outta place in INF right now but...).

 

[MP_Duke]

That's what i'm saying, the sights make it harder to use. But that doesn't make it a bad gun...someone who is used to the sights can perform well. No one uses it...yes, they either don't use it cuz they think it's uncool and they don't like it, or found out later that it was hard to use and are too embarrassed to apologize to me about calling it a whore gun...

OMG propaGANDA video!? No wayz! Anyway... Just cause you can kill more (which I think your lying) with it, doesnt mean anyone else can. I mean NO ONE uses it. If it was so uber and powerful alot of people who just play to win would use it!

 

[{GD}Odie3]

... the list is long and distinguished as is my Johnson.

Gee short list I guess [Sorry I could not pass up the above without remarking]


I too like the A4 but I still like my regular M16 too. Duke great work on both your weapons. I am glad you are doing and it is great FUN to try them out. We all seem to have options but I only see you coding them. You must have thick skin.

 

[ecale3]

Duke great work on both your weapons. I am glad you are doing and it is great FUN to try them out. We all seem to have options but I only see you coding them. You must have thick skin.

Give Dr. J and Kow props for the model and skin too


And damnit you people aren't using the public section of our forums. Do it NOW! (link's in my sig)

 

[L3d]

love the model so fare altho i would like to see somme more of it as the normal m16 in the game looks like with the shoulder stock seen more .also are u still planing on a normal sight like no aim-dot yes?

 

[geogob]

engrish?

 

[NTKB]

 

[PBH]

NT how come the link in your sig is community pics but you can save any of them?

 

[MP_Duke]

Why did you have to ruin my line? If you were gonna retort, you could've come up with something better no? That was the most untactful way to refute the statement--it's stated "the list is long and distinguished..." to which you replied,

Gee short list I guess [Sorry I could not pass up the above without remarking]

You get failx0r for that. You failed.

 

[Dr.J]

i can tell you that modelwise ive been working on attatchments - iron sights being one of them... now here comes the big question - flip up sights or carrying handle? and ive seen this too many times - this is a reflex sight, NOT a red dot sight. red dot sights are usually closed but the point of reflex sights is so that you can keep your peripherial vision while having a system that allows you to quickly engage targets. (somone like bushwack, 5eleven etc can correct me if ive got amything wrong) and people, stop giving duke sh*t.

 

[MP_Duke]

nah it's otay Dr.J, i dun mind throwing a few people here and there into the little tin trash cans they keep in the corner of classrooms...it ex0rcizes the bad blood

 

[{GD}Odie3]

Why did you have to ruin my line? If you were gonna retort, you could've come up with something better no? That was the most untactful way to refute the statement--it's stated "the list is long and distinguished..." to which you replied,

You get failx0r for that. You failed.

The word *Long* is relative.... What one man thinks of long, another woman thinks is short.

However, I am just joking with ya.

As for Dr. J and Kow, good work!

 

[MP_Duke]

You still fail

 

[NTKB]

*throws duke in a garbage can*

WINNOR!!!

Edit: Oh and PBH the reason is we asked people to send in art, which we didnt ask them to allow us to disclose it freely, hence the protection... You can bypass this with windows XP and by disabling Java though.

 

[DEFkon]

Hey just wanted to give a big congrats to MP_Duke for the rifle. I think it turned out really well. The only gameplay effecting bug that i've found is that sometimes i find that when aiming from the hip with the LAM, that the bullet impacts are a great deal to the right of where the Lam indicates you're aiming. It's almost as if the recoil from a previous shot is being carried over and applied somehow. If you take the weapon on the training course with a LAM in the configuration and start plinking targets with it hiped you'll see what i mean.

Other than that minor bug, i think it's quite possibly one of the best weapons in the armory now. Not in terms of "better performance" aka unbalanced, but that it actually feels more "polished" than the standard M16 model. Espically in the area of the sights, and in terms of the animation (only the "newer" weapons in INF2.9 acutally had an animation for switching trigger groups)

There seems to be some discussion about the need / want for an ACOG scope to be made available for the weapon. Even though i don't care for the way that 2.9 handles the scopes (I think it's easier to hit something in the distance repeatedly without the scopes than with them because of the amplifed effects of breathing) yet somehow i feel that the rifle should have it available to those the would like to use it.

 

[Demosthanese]

I don't think compramises between real and gameplay should be made in INF, and
certainly nothing should just be tossed in because it's cool(incendiaries). Apart from that
grenade and the red dot(should be amber), I love the weapon. Looks very nice, and
performs well. i generally take it out more often than the a2 because of the ladder sight
(which if you are going to include incendiares, at least match their ballistics to the rest
of the grenades) and the reflex sight.

The problem that I have in general is that you do take a lot of creative license with
the weapons. Infiltration would be better off if the community modders were more
focused on making things "as real as it gets."

 

[MP_Duke]

You're right. I do. I'll defend this position with a quote from Einstein...
"Imagination is more important than knowledge."

The problem that I have in general is that you do take a lot of creative license with
the weapons.