Epic Announces "Major" UT3 Expansion
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I agree wholeheartedly. This is their chance to right a wrong. As LGX1 pointed out, it is an expansion pack, not a stand alone game. But if one stops to think, wasn't UT2004 essentially an expansion pack for UT2003, even though it was sold as a stand alone game? I say yes, it was.
I didn't get banned from the Epic boards, but the moderation of those forums is a total disgrace. I pulled the reverse on them and sh1tcanned them and I never log in to their boards. They had foolishly thought they could release UT3 in its unfinished state and that everybody was going to be docile about it. Of course, that didn't happen and when people rightfully posted their displeasure about it, they copped out and banned a lot of them, and some like yourself, got banned without just cause. It turned me off from UT3 to the point that I almost threw it completely out & I know that I had told more than 3 dozen people not to buy it -- and they didn't. And that was primarily due to what was going on at their forums. The way I see it, nobody has to butter up to Epic or their Gestapo forum moderators.
With the price of UT3 having come down, plus this Expansion pack coming out, I think for the first time now, I can rightfully recommend the game to local players in my area. I had just put UT3 back on my computers, yesterday, after months in exile. Let's hope the Expansion pack turns out to be a major difference maker.
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as a TC modder with the AFF
lanetstorm team, i simply welcome anything epic throws us right now.
I've hardened myself to the fact epic doesnt really love us anymore and im purely out for anything i can get. if its not free, i dont care. getting a $300,000 engine to play with for $50 is still a good deal to me, and i'd pay another $50 for more stuff.
For the players, i cant comment. i dont play stock ut3, im all about our mod. We reckon we can bring a new community to UT3 withour mod alone, already many people tell us they've bought it simply to install planetstorm. I hope many other MSUC entries will do the same. RO sure did, and Damnation went pro also.
lanetstorm team, i simply welcome anything epic throws us right now. I've hardened myself to the fact epic doesnt really love us anymore and im purely out for anything i can get. if its not free, i dont care. getting a $300,000 engine to play with for $50 is still a good deal to me, and i'd pay another $50 for more stuff.
For the players, i cant comment. i dont play stock ut3, im all about our mod. We reckon we can bring a new community to UT3 withour mod alone, already many people tell us they've bought it simply to install planetstorm. I hope many other MSUC entries will do the same. RO sure did, and Damnation went pro also.
Not everybody agrees what those things are, though.
There are a few issues that if Epic fixes them I don't really care about the rest.
1) The UI.
2) The Demoguy problem.
3) Crappy mapvoting system.
4) The lack of mixing up teams between rounds
5) Broken Clientside Demorec
6) Probably the aiming thing Haarg talked about in the other thread.
7) Auto team balancing (just by numbers as far as I'm concerned)
Aside from these issues, no one can agree on problems that need fixing. However, I'm sure that if these get fixed people will find something else to complain about. What it comes down to is personal preference. It is not going to be possible for Epic to make a game that is 100% exactly what everyone wants it to be, and I think, in large part, this is why UT3 failed. Everyone expected it to deliver exactly what they wanted and, in the end, it didn't and couldn't have.
The higher your expectations, the harder they fall.
What would really make me buy this game would be an entire overhaul of the GUI. I want all the features/options that we had in 2k4 with fully customizable bots and alot more!!!!
Oh, and dont forget the high rez textures for the characters
Oh, and dont forget the high rez textures for the characters
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What I would really like to see...
What I would really like to see is a better way to control the bots, i.e. in warfare mode. OK, the promised speech-recognition feature is probably not realistic.
But they should add a very simple interface to the map, which shows the location of all allies and gives me the opportunity to assign bots to certain locations on the map. This would add a minimal element of strategy to the game and make things a lot more fun.
What I would really like to see is a better way to control the bots, i.e. in warfare mode. OK, the promised speech-recognition feature is probably not realistic.
But they should add a very simple interface to the map, which shows the location of all allies and gives me the opportunity to assign bots to certain locations on the map. This would add a minimal element of strategy to the game and make things a lot more fun.
What would really make me buy this game would be an entire overhaul of the GUI. I want all the features/options that we had in 2k4 with fully customizable bots and alot more!!!!
Oh, and dont forget the high rez textures for the characters
+1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Having fully customizable bots would just absolutely rock !! I'm still in disbelief that this wasn't included.
I read something somewhere about how to turn it on, but I can't find it anywhere now... I've sent an email off to see if we can learn how to activate it, because it is clearly still in the game.
I know, but wouldn't you rather have that in the GUI? Like it was in original UT. I mean you could see what it did in the game.
Notwithstanding, I will take your suggestion and play with the customcharacter.ini and see what I come up with.
It would be great to be able to do it graphically in-game when the characters consist of a bunch of individual parts to put together. That's especially annoying when you have to do it with a text editor.
I was so disappointed when I found Epic's idea of a treat for offliners was the campaign mode and a crippled, barren instant action. It was like a really bad joke.
I sure would, not going to happen.
For the next UT though, it's a must, otherwise it's a joke.
I'm sure they learned that WE are PC users, anything dumbed down is an insult toward us.
Huh?
I assume you say this because it will help gather players? People will want a server browser with dedicated servers to play on. But then I'm going to presume you were sarcastic.
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Yeah, I agree with the people who want the Bot customization back.
Its absence in UT3 really put me off, and so I was forced to beat the same bots all over again because I didn't understand perfectly how to use the oversimplified customization window.
Its absence in UT3 really put me off, and so I was forced to beat the same bots all over again because I didn't understand perfectly how to use the oversimplified customization window.
Why not instanced matches for duel's so you dont need to find a free server... wishful thinking perhaps
Just remove them from list and that's it, then click on number of bots and raise it, it's tricky to do it through, but I managed to add three my bots and others random ones..........but it's really tricky to do that...........and buggy...
TheIronKnuckle
What the hell is this "ballin" thing?
Why not instanced matches for duel's so you dont need to find a free server... wishful thinking perhaps
I completely agree. Frankly, I tried to get into Duel, and the endless waits turned me off.
Heh, my 2 cents on what the expansion should include:
1: More clientside customization (crosshairs, bots, etc).
2: A more UWindows like ui
3: Bots aren't so damned accurate, and don't snap aim like they do now (a simple customizable X degrees per second limiter would do the trick)
4: Weapon and vehicle balance issues smoothed out. It's not really bad as it is, but Manta and Stinger need some tweaking.
5: A bit more floaty gameplay, nowhere near the level 2004 was, but a step in that direction.
6: Make hitscan actually hit.
7: Return of the lightning gun?
As for the story .... probably a 3 way corporation war happening after the necris invasion, a returning necris attack, and Reaper getting his "revenge" grudge match.
1: More clientside customization (crosshairs, bots, etc).
2: A more UWindows like ui
3: Bots aren't so damned accurate, and don't snap aim like they do now (a simple customizable X degrees per second limiter would do the trick)
4: Weapon and vehicle balance issues smoothed out. It's not really bad as it is, but Manta and Stinger need some tweaking.
5: A bit more floaty gameplay, nowhere near the level 2004 was, but a step in that direction.
6: Make hitscan actually hit.
7: Return of the lightning gun?
As for the story .... probably a 3 way corporation war happening after the necris invasion, a returning necris attack, and Reaper getting his "revenge" grudge match.