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Religious/Evolutionary Debate Thread

Discussion in 'Other Stuff' started by QUALTHWAR, Dec 2, 2004.

  1. GoAt

    GoAt Never wrong

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    this is just more of

    my way is the right way, your way leads to hell! bull crap
     
  2. GoAt

    GoAt Never wrong

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    the reason why there is no mention of the earth being flat in the bible is because look at where it was written.

    ON LAND! those who feared to sail out to sea were near a massive body of water and were able to clearly see why they thought the earth was flat
     
  3. GoAt

    GoAt Never wrong

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    now i have been told by my grandparents that when the great battle between good vs evil, heaven vs hell takes place, those who have accepted jesus into their lies, along witht he jews (regardless of their posistion provided they are true to their faith, jesus or no) will be saved.
     
  4. QUALTHWAR

    QUALTHWAR Baitshop opening soon.

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    i have a problem with god making all these changes. I would think christians would as well, but i guess not.
     
  5. QUALTHWAR

    QUALTHWAR Baitshop opening soon.

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    which jesus? the good jesus or the bad jesus?
     
  6. Evil_Cope

    Evil_Cope For the Win, motherfather!

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    Aha, but it is, and no-where is!

    or something. :con:
     
  7. Evil_Cope

    Evil_Cope For the Win, motherfather!

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    You know, i find it infinately uncomfortable watching Qualthwar debate religion, etc.

    Qualthwar was always the mr no debatey type guy, wise-cracking from the sidelines except on maths day.
     
  8. Evil_Cope

    Evil_Cope For the Win, motherfather!

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    He's not doing bad, but it's just not right. it's like old people having sex, and being rather good at it.
     
  9. QUALTHWAR

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    i don't debate because i'm jesus and it's wrong. but i started this thread to find out who doesn't believe in me so i can spite them.
     
  10. QUALTHWAR

    QUALTHWAR Baitshop opening soon.

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    No, really, I just thought it would be important to air my views since I always believed in god until I researched the matter. We are all biased, but at least I attempted to take an unbiased approach, and it led me to believe I had been wrong all my life. I think that’s an important find.
     
  11. Evil_Cope

    Evil_Cope For the Win, motherfather!

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    quite a revalation for Jesus, i'd say.
     
  12. Balton

    Balton The Beast of Worship

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    catharsis... ephiphany!
    ...just passing through... ;)
     
  13. Nachimir

    Nachimir Crony of Stilgar

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    Yeah... :)
     
  14. QUALTHWAR

    QUALTHWAR Baitshop opening soon.

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    As am attempt to be unbiased, i was looking at the hubble deep field image to see if god was trying to tell me anything. To my surprize, i found an image of the virgin mary. The image is clearly evidense that god exists.
     

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  15. Chrysaor

    Chrysaor Lord of the Pants

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    Q, you continue to put me in the category of people ignorant of science just because I believe in "god". I fully understand the end of the Cretaceous. Evolution and mother nature do some weird things. Given your number, that 10% of the population was still around, then it is completely likely in my opinion that some dinosaurs might have survived. Between the two options I stated, one is more likely. Doesn't mean I'm not highly suspicious of the dinosaurs living on until somewhat recent times. Your coelecanth, and other species like the australia dingo IIRC were thought extinct and then mysteriously reappeared in number a long, long time later.

    "catharsis" ****ing germans are using words I don't even know.
     
  16. Zarkazm

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    Actually, according to the site you linked to it's not. Even though the actual explanation appears rather convoluted, the point is pretty simple: God redefined the 'covenant' to include exclusively the people who accept Jesus as their saviour. Period.

    How is that difficult? The Jews used to be the chosen people, but fell out of grace or something. Now Christians are the chosen people.
     
  17. Cat Fuzz

    Cat Fuzz Qualthwar's Minion. Ph34r!

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    Oh, ok. :tup:
     
  18. Cat Fuzz

    Cat Fuzz Qualthwar's Minion. Ph34r!

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    This verse acknowledges the Earth is round in a time when the conventional wisdom was that it was flat.


    This verse talks about the Earth being in empty space in a time when people thought the Earth had to be sitting on something, like the back of a giant turtle.
     
  19. QUALTHWAR

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    First of all, I think it’s admirable that you continue to work through this discussion when most religious people have given up.

    As far as dinosaurs surviving the asteroid, the large dinos didn’t. There wasn’t enough food and warmth for them. It was mainly small animals that could live underground or live off small amounts of food that survived. Big animals require big food sources, and there just wasn’t any. Many times there is an abundance of small animals, like rats and mice, because there’s enough food in the surrounding environment to sustain them. If large dinosaurs multiplied like mice, the food supply of the world would soon run out. anyway, the greater numbers of small animals also helped to ensure survival. Like going into battle with a large number of troops compared to a small number. With large numbers, many can be killed off, but there are still sufficient numbers to carry on.

    The fossil record ‘clearly’ shows that there were no large animals like dinosaurs around after the catastrophe. However, in a way you’re correct in that small creatures survived and they have evolved over time to look different. There is strong evidence that birds evolved from these small dinosaurs.
     
  20. Chrysaor

    Chrysaor Lord of the Pants

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    I find working through issues with people who have different views often educates you about your own pretty well. I don't think anyone leaves a discussion like this finding fault in their god or proclaiming Jesus their savior, but examining the evidence and being honest with your reaction to it is beneficial for everyone.

    I guess I also, not believing a conscious god, have the easiest position to defend on this side of the line. :p
     

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