It was actually about 2-3 hours inland from Managua, and probably about the same from masaya. Dozens of miles away from the nearest town/settlement. Took a ride through a dried up riverbed to get there, and a 1973 Ford diesel tractor took us up the mountain. People sitting all over the tractor, on the engine, the wheel wells.. the tires didn't even have air in them cause they didn't have an air compressor so it was filled with water instead. Definitely an amazing experienceWas that Volcan Mombacho by any chance, since you were in that area? I hiked up it with my bro a couple years ago. Just as beautiful on the way up as around the top. :tup:
no, you're not listening.I have never worked with this rule myself, I only found out half a year ago what it really meant.
Does this mean allmost all of my photo's from before that period where suck?
you're going to have to re-word what you have typed here.Painters of history?
Uhm.. yesterday is history?
arent there any painters besides the ones "from history" ?
there are also the painters for the future.. and the painters of history will always have some sort of influences in our futures.
so you're agreeing with me?Also you are right some of the painters used boring compostions, but with so many painters there will always be someone that can inspire you..
you assume I don't know anything about art?You should spend some time on getting deeper into art.. visit a local museum for instance.
words cannot express how impressed I am with your vocabulary of terms for different compositions. really, I'm blown away.Triangle-composition, Symmetric/asymmetric composition, Horizontal/vertical/diagonal/central composition, geometric shaped composition, ritmic composition, open composition, closed composition, lineperspective, atmoschpheric perspective compostion..
but you never specified anything about who you would be referencing.dont only yell "Da vinci" or "Van gogh" just because they are famous. there have been 10000's of painters all having their own style.
Jackson Pollock, andy Warhol, Michaelangelo (was also an architect), Peter Paul Rubens.. want more?
I never said they weren't.Even though their compositions might be outdated they are still respected
I never said it shouldn't be.The painters where the first photographers and their vision should not be neglected.
agreed.Also understanding different "rules" besides the rule of thirds can always accompany you and help you out when the rule of thirds cannot be used or just does not fit the theme of what you are going for.
lol, ok.Remember your kindergardenteacher or your parents telling you to draw within the lines?
That was the moment your creativity got shoved aside.
Paint frikking outside the lines if you want to.
Do not follow the rules, but only do so if you understand the rules.
So even not following the rules can be a rule to some artists.
no, you're not listening.
I said the rule is there as a guideline, or as an easy trick that people can use if they don't already exhibit their own natural ability to recognize what makes for good framing and composition. some people just don't possess that photographer's "eye" and need some kind of yardstick that they can rely on to help correct this.
you're going to have to re-word what you have typed here.
I don't know what you're trying to say or what point you're trying to make. your train of thought is all broken up.
I think you're afraid that I'm ignoring great artists of recent and/or current history.
if that's what you're saying, then you're still incorrect. keep reading...
so you're agreeing with me?
I never said that there aren't any painters out there who can't inspire you. I only said that it can be misleading to reference new/inexperienced photographers to study painted artwork, being that each medium has become so different.
you assume I don't know anything about art?
you assume I don't visit the St. Louis Art Museum at least once a year? or that I wouldn't visit the art and history museums of other cities I've traveled to? that I haven't spent days lost in the Art Institute of Chicago or the Field?
please don't patronize me
words cannot express how impressed I am with your vocabulary of terms for different compositions. really, I'm blown away.
but you never specified anything about who you would be referencing.
you just said "look at painters" or something. that could mean anyone and anything, so I just fired off a few recognizable names as people who were both considered great artists and who often utilized boring composition.
I never said they weren't.
I never said it shouldn't be.
agreed.
but the original point of discussion was about Thirds as it applies to photography in general. I never meant to apply it so specifically as to suggest that it's the only rule one should be following.
lol, ok.
ok see you're getting a little too existential with this debate.
I never said that people shouldn't be creative and experimental and live outside the box. AGAIN, my only little point was that the Thirds rule is an important tool to help inexperienced/new photographers recognize what separates a run-of-the-mill picture from a more compelling one.
that's it.
Pictures ??? Examples ???
I have never worked with this rule myself, I only found out half a year ago what it really meant.
Does this mean almost all of my photo's from before that period where suck?
Tl:dr
...its just a guideline...
...the rule is there as a guideline...
This is an experiment with high ISO. It was pitch black in the field, I couldn't see a thing, just the vague shadows of the trees. The high ISO, combined with wide aperture and long shutter absorbed far more light than the human eye could see. That's the Andromeda galaxy you can see, and the orange light is the ambient glow from a village about 5km away. The light on the left side is the ambient glow of the moon.
(ISO 1600, f2.8, 20 sec) Nikon D3 w/ Nikkor 17-35mm @ 17mm.
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West coast of Portugal at sunset. Needed a more dramatic sky than this to be honest, so I need to go back and shoot it again when there's a storm or something. Nikon D3 w/ Nikkor 17-35mm @ 17mm
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As I said, I haven't had much time for landscapes this summer, but I've ended up doing loads of wedding work. I didn't use to be interested in that sort of photography, but it's starting to grow on me actually. It's incredibly challenging to do it well so respect to anyone who does that. Might post some shots here, but that's more 007 Mike's area and my shots will look terrible compared with his.