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Mutator: Inf Weapon Enhancement

Discussion in 'Infiltration Development' started by Crowze, Dec 30, 2004.

  1. Nukeproof

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    That's most likely giving clipping errors. I believe that's the reason why most weapons aren't as close to the eye as IRL.
     
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    Hm...I feel like the *new* way of aiming a g36k is far from realistic, sry (I do not say it is correct for all other weapons)...and it looks ugly. I think: Leave it the old way.
     
  3. Crowze

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    (sry Don) I need someone who has actually used this weapon to verify what Don said about it being used more like an aimpoint.

    Arethusa: I've added you, but i'm at work most weektime.
     
  4. Vega-don

    Vega-don arreté pour detention de tomate prohibée

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    the old way.. nobody uses it exept for rasalom :D
     
  5. Vega-don

    Vega-don arreté pour detention de tomate prohibée

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    i really love that mutator, i love you crowse
    i was playing inf that afternoon and i could use the famas in siberia TDM and kill people! i see many people using the famas thats cool.
    after that i was on kazakhstan (between russia and ouzbekhistan) and i could use the Shotgun and the power of the shotgun was in my hands! with one shot/kill at closes ranges..the real shootgun is back!
    after that i was on arsenal and the minimi was a great weapon. this mutator is fantastic
     
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    ...and me :D ! Thats the best sniping assaultrifle in INF. And I do want it exactly as it is now!
     
  7. N'kEnNy

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    I guess there are no easy solutions for fixing the G36k then?
    Without actually trying it in the game, it looks rather cumbersome... *sigh*

    Perhaps a healthy medium could be found? I'm sure you'll come up with a good solution.
     
  8. Crowze

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    I have plans for a solution, but it's more complicated than I like and won't be in the next two releases at least.
     
  9. N'kEnNy

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    You've got my vote of confidence!
     
  10. keihaswarrior

    keihaswarrior New Member

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    Thats not really true. While Aimpoints aren't used really close to the eye, the G36K is aimed more like it was originally than how crowze has it.

    The main problem isn't the distance between eye and optic.

    The problem is that the current view is only from what the right eye sees. CCB sights are used with both eyes open. So the view should be of what the left eye sees, not the right. Then simply overlay a red dot at the point of aim and you are set.

    You could even go a step further and overlay a ghost image of what the right eye sees with the red dot ontop of the left eye view. This would be the most realistic without gamers needing to wear 3D goggles to play the game. :D
     
  11. Vega-don

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    the problem is that that weapon is not a sniping assault rifle. it is supposely as good in close combat than a smg , wich it is not with this system currently

    crowse, i think its better to put it further, because for 2 users who like it like its now, theires 200 who hate it and want a sight where they actualy see the environement.
     
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    The best g36 version for real cqb is the g36C with a lot more open sights (simple irons for example).

    At the moment (in INF) this gun is unique, and very useful! If you want to see the environment, well, there are enough assaultrifles which will be useful in this respect.

    Another idea (both eyes) might (!) be simply to put the whole gun just more to the right of the screen (so you have a larger field of view on the left side). But I do not really know if that is possible without messing up the whole thing, or if it would look good.
     
  13. Crowze

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    I don't know if that's possible without messing up the freeaim area. How would a compromise work here? Make it further than it is normally, but closer than I have it now. Then, you'd still have a fair area of vision around it without it being too easy to use.
     
  14. Arethusa

    Arethusa We will not walk in fear.

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    Best compromise you're likely to get for making any weapon useful in CQB is drastically limiting freeaim. Get rid of nearly all of it for pistols and cut it back immensely for SMGs and carbines, including the G36k. It's something that's been needed for some time, now.
     
  15. Vega-don

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    i dont think thats the solution. we gonna have an army of hip shooters.

    make a vote : g36 closer or further
     
  16. Arethusa

    Arethusa We will not walk in fear.

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    Yeah, god forbid people don't aim with full iron sights in close quarters.

    There should also be an amount of weapon sway while hipped, which I believe was the aim of another mutator. A lot of this stuff needs to be combined.
     
  17. Crowze

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    Freeaim is one thing that makes Inf unique, and I'll not be taking that away. Besides, I think changing that would mean modifying the player class, which I really want to avoid.
     
  18. N'kEnNy

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    Remove or decrease the free-aim for the G36? Are you mad? Its one of the few things that make the G36 usable in CQB. Lowering the G36 can give you a nearly acceptable view of the battle-field situation.

    If your going to do anything with the G36's free-aim perhaps allowing it to be lowered slightly more is the solution.
     
  19. Nukeproof

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    On a more general note:

    I think a combination of Psychomorph's 'Low Ready' idea and a weapon dependent reduction of the FOV when aiming (like RO does) would be a good way to incorporate pros/cons of ironsights/aimpoint etc. into INF.

    I am talking 3.0+ here of course...

    Focusing and blurring won't work for quite a while perfomance wise. (no clue how it could be cvontrolled by the player anyway)
     
  20. keihaswarrior

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    Crowze please make it like a true Aimpoint with both eyes open. Here are two ideas of how to do this ingame. The first is easier and is realistic, but isn't quite what a soldier sees when aiming. The second method would be harder (maybe impossible) but obviously looks better.
     

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