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Sir_Brizz

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Not three years, Jeez! The latest this is coming is probably 2007, two years.
 

bid

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Sir_Brizz said:
Those things don't make a game successful. As far as I'm concerned it was a great success, but the player numbers online show otherwise.

I blame AntiTCC for destroying the UT2004 player base.
 

flo0tz

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I wouldn't really like to see dodge jumping taken out, rather double jumping taken out, i really hate double jump spammers!

EDIT: stinger and enforcers!!! :D
 
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Sir_Brizz

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bid said:
I blame AntiTCC for destroying the UT2004 player base.
I don't know why, but I do know that it should have been configured by default to the simplest, fastest settings.

It could be worse. We could be using PunkBuster.
 

Selerox

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Again?!

bid said:
I blame AntiTCC for destroying the UT2004 player base.

Please, for the love of God, shut up. You've used every single thread you've posted in to push your personal, bitchy little agenda. Pack it in ffs. I'm personally amazed you've not been stuck on RO for the ammount of thread hijacks you've pulled off due to your Anti-AntiTCC obsession.

Lemme tell you one thing. You are in the minority, OK? AntiTCC had it's flaws, but to say it destroyed UT200x is just crap. Plain and simple. Most people might have been annoyed by it's flaws, but tolerated it, becuase there was nothing better at the time (and until SafeGame sorts itself out, theres still nothing). I'm guessing your alternative is no cheat protection at all, right? Not going to happen. That'd be more likley to "kill" UT200x than AntiTCC ever was.
 

nick89

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*Audible Gasp*

Gallery has been updated. Im not sure how legit the last two are, could someone check em out.
 

Daedalus

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just got this issue in the mail. The game is going to be amazing. I'll give it a closer read tonight.

EDIT: btw, those last two pictures are just from the old UEngine3 tech demo from last year.
 
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Retodon8

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Nemephosis said:
And replacing the minigun with the stinger is just such a bad idea I can't even believe they considered it much less approved it.

You forgot the "why" part.
The Stinger is a unique Unreal weapon, the minigun is a boring thing that was actually with us since the Wolfenstein 3D days.
It makes perfect sense they got rid of it.
It works well enough in UC2, and for the guy asking about it, alternate fire in that game lets you aim the shards a bit, somewhat similar to Half-Life's RPG.
The shards fly much faster than the Pulse/Link Gun, I don't get the equation.

As for the Sniper Rifle vs Lightning Gun...
"Everybody" complained about the LG, and now with UT2004 and UC2 Epic let the SR return.
Of course, after they did that people started complaining again.
In the end, going with my logic, the LG would be the Unreal weapon, so... probably would be better if they changed it into that, and made it so not as much people would whine about it.
You can't make everyone happy anyway.

[IMD1]KillRoy said:
I was just wondering if they would include the original UT. I mean, just porting over the whole game so it would be the same exept that it is running on the latest engine...

I suppose you don't have any experience with the engine, because that would take ages!
In other words, not worth it.
I'm sure people will make their own remakes soon enough.
 

P-Hocto

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its gonna be crazy having 18 different vehicles battling it out, conquest sounds amazing
 

KaL976

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Selerox said:
Please, for the love of God, shut up. You've used every single thread you've posted in to push your personal, bitchy little agenda. Pack it in ffs. I'm personally amazed you've not been stuck on RO for the ammount of thread hijacks you've pulled off due to your Anti-AntiTCC obsession.

Lemme tell you one thing. You are in the minority, OK? AntiTCC had it's flaws, but to say it destroyed UT200x is just crap. Plain and simple. Most people might have been annoyed by it's flaws, but tolerated it, becuase there was nothing better at the time (and until SafeGame sorts itself out, theres still nothing). I'm guessing your alternative is no cheat protection at all, right? Not going to happen. That'd be more likley to "kill" UT200x than AntiTCC ever was.
:stupid:

I'm not playing if there's no Lightning gun. You hear me Epic?!?
 

Nosnos

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Nemephosis said:
Didn't you just say "ONE OF the things"?

So how is removing the weapons (which is "one" of the things) ruining UT?

It still has karma, vehicles, player physics...... or are those not coming back in UT2006?

Remove THOSE and it isn't UT.

Well karma, vehicles and the player physics have changed a lot from Unreal -> UT2004 so the only thing that has basicly remained the same is the weapons... without the shockrifle, flak, bio, etc it just wouldn't be Unreal... it would perhaps look like unreal but it would be unreal... It would be like removing the Rocket Launcher from Quake, it would remove the very soul from the game ^^
 

L0cky

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I'm playing Devil's advocate here so it wouldn't be fair to flame me (if you don't know what Devil's Advocate is, go search the interweb ;))

Formula for a Game Series
Should be pasted on all Epic office walls.

Preperation
Create enough ideas and content to create 1.5 games. This doesn't need to be complete until step 2.

Step 1: The Original Game
Use enough of the content to release the first game.
Effect:
- Establishes a fan base.

Step 2: The First Sequel
Randomly remove half of the content from the last game and replace with the ideas that weren't used.
Effect:
- Almost everyone is pleased by at least some of the things removed, because they were the things ruining the game.
- Most people will be pleased by fresh content.

Step 3 to Infinity: The Rest of the Series
Randomly replace some of the content with what was removed in the last game.
Effect:
- Almost everyone is pleased by at least some of the content removed, because they were the things ruining the game.
- Almost everyone is pleased by at least some of the content that returned, in an old school, sentimental, reminiscent kind of way; because these were the things that made the game cool in the first place.

Footnote
Any new ideas are welcome, even if they only sound good on paper.
Effect:
- Most people will be pleased by fresh content. If they don't work out, they will be pleased yet again when we remove them.

Everyone's a winner!
 

OutlawSkot33

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Hmm 2007 huh, give me time to save up alot of money to buy a good computer with very good processor and graphics.


GRAPHICS KICK ASS! Hell these graphics blow Halo 2 out of the water! They could even do a movie using the Unreal Engine and it could pass off as live action and blow all other movies away.