Duke and the Donkey of Troy...

[Taque]

Hopefully my final post on this topic: I do not remember having Cheating in my profile, but since I was accused of it before this whole thing came up, I'm sure I put it in there as a joke and have since forgotten about it (who checks people's profiles anyways? ). As for my tone, arrogance was the furthest thing from my mind. I could've easily just disappeared and left you guys to think even worse of us (which of course is understandable) but I decided to let you guys know what was going on in the background. I knew my response wouldn't be taken 100% for what it's worth since, obviously, any trust in my words is shattered. I don't mean to have any kind of tone of looking down at you all - for me, I played INF for the people by the end of these last few months, not the TDM.

As for the demon eggs crac, I can't speak for Duke, I guess. I just know that I didn't use them against others - I much prefer the actual 40mm kill. Anyway, crac, I thought you'd like to know that Duke has such a penchant for seeing you suffer, that he actually bound you (mind****) to semicolon so that he could disconnect you at his will. Further, I think you're actually talking about a 3 vs 3 on SG we had, JoKeR and Rez being the other players. I didn't see Duke/Keg firefight so I didnt comment.

Anyways, as I've PM'ed to several people now, you guys will believe whatever you want. My word is worthless in most of your eyes, so I'm just going to say what I know to be true.

 

[CFA]

Bullshit + 1.

Keganator as my witness.

We were playing you guys on INF Germany TDM, on Dogtown (where I was naded). We spawned by the river. You guys always knew where we spawned - which was hilarious.

About ten seconds after we spawned, a '40mm' hit me. I was behind the building next to the river - hugging the wall, about to climb the ladder.

I immediately switched to my Ghost Cam to find Duke, and where was he?

On the opposite end of the entire map, sitting on top of a building (the S building, between the two fans) - with an impossible angle on that nade trajectory.

The bullshit continued - Keg and I discovered that you guys really did have some kind of beacon radar - as you naded us, no matter where we hid, without even having to look to see where we were.

I played for as long as I could stomach, just to get an idea of what cheats you guys were using. From what I could tell, some kind of radar, god mode, the ability to stop guns from firing (which only happened once - still not sure if anybody has even talked about anything like it yet), the fact that whenever I fought Duke, he would glitch, the game would become 'choppy' (never happened with anybody else I played) and my bullets would pass through his gay, polygonal body, bullshit redeemer nades that could hit me at impossible angles and distances...

I was always the first one to be killed by Duke, so when I'd die, I'd follow his camera and watch him track Keg down. It was on Peru (ironically). He went back to the attacker spawn, always facing toward's Keg's beacon (he was by the wooden doors). I told Keg he was being tracked, and told him to expect a wall of bullets his way in '3...2...1...' - Duke shoots through the boxes, without actually seeing Keg's model. Keg emptied an entire AK drum into him, and he lived. Everybody on the server but Duke and Taque thought that was amazing.

'That...was awesome...'-Keg

Immediately afterwards, I had a long talk with geo, and we came up with a plan to catch you assholes.

I remember before I logged off, Rezoaner was lecturing you guys about your bullshit nades, saying that you guys alone were killing INF. He asked you guys to '...just play the game'. You both played the 'Oh - INF is dead, stfu' game.

My closing comment was - 'This is more gay than Battlefield 2'. And it was. You guys disgust me.

The next morning, I wake up with a pm from geo to this thread, and sixty-one messages from Keg (heh). Somebody beat us to it, and thankfully, did a smash-up job with their evidence.

Again, my hats off to the real 'INF Police'.

So, Taque, Duke. You sirs, can of course, go fuck yourselves.

Good luck using INF on your resume Duke. I don't even think EA would hire you after this.

holy poo......i think...........yep............i agree with cracwhore for once!

 

[XploD]

Wrong! Why would he have almost 10 keybinds with specific names (look post #1).

And why were some people kicked from the server when no duke was there?
It's not that EVERY kick should be dukes fault, there are still other ways...

I think this because there was no UTDC timeout message when someone tried the "mind... player" cheat

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[Solanum]

ok.. Taque
1vs1? you mean one group against another group?

even i can remember getting killed by an soundless 40mm from 'hell i don't know'
i'm sure that duke, or you taque, didn't use your famous names, but there have been many situations like that..

an 'easteregg-mutator' would have been glad, not involving anyone that there is an easteregg makes it an really ****ing bad thing

i don't know any of you guys personally (and i'm glad about it, because it makes it worse) but i think everyone knows you guys right now

you told duke to get the codes out of the next weaponpack?
well, maybe that's right, but why did you tell him?
i would have told him too, if i would stick in the crap, 'couse i used this **** even in war's against other clans

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and to duke:
now we are talking about the people out there!

what the hell did you think? was it your way to drive people crazy? is this the reason why you've used the name mind***k?
you did spend your time on creating this cheats.. ok, really, they are great.. others did spend even more time in getting better with every round they where playing
than you came up and they couldn't win any round against you
they've lost there faith in themselfs and into the hole game




sorry, i'm just an stupid german fan of infiltration and maybe i don't got your genius brain to understand why you did it

so, one last thing in german:
ich bin enttäuscht von euch, wir alle sind es..

 

[[C22]-SpOOky]

Why is Taque still even able to post on thease forums ?
Who gives a rats ass if you used is on pubs or just clan wars,
the fact is your actions could be harmful to the community as a whole
1 of the reasons I played inf for so long was the lack of cheating idiots
Your cheating will most likely reduce people's confidence In INFILTRATION's biggest asset that it gives you a fair playing field
(Something that is very hard to find in games thease days)

Can somebody please take action to stop either of them posting again
I have no Interest in reading their thoughts
and even less Interest in reading people giveing them respect coz they posted
It dont take balls to respond to summat like this,
It takes arogance to think people even give a dam what they have to say

Taque You've let yourself down, But worse youve let the comminuity down
Now do the decent thing and pi**off

 

[NTKB]

*preachers voice* Yesssa let it outtaaa son!

 

[leiperik]

can anyone tell me what the SIMAN command did?

 

[geogob]

Actually, I'll have to disagree with you, Spooky. Whether you like it or not, they have all their right to speak their mind in this thread or anywhere else. As far as I know did not break any forum rules and I do not see why they should be banned.

 

[NTKB]

Actually, I'll have to disagree with you, Spooky. Whether you like it or not, they have all their right to speak their mind in this thread or anywhere else. As far as I know did not break any forum rules and I do not see why they should be banned.

Geo you didnt know the admins do whateva they want here ? You are 100% correct though! ding ding 2 points.

 

[geogob]

can anyone tell me what the SIMAN command did?

Neabit chose not to post information on this command before and until the weapon pack was removed from all servers or until a fix is released. Understandable.

I think now it's ok to release this information...

It's a neet little function that lets you restart the server or change maps.

 

[leiperik]

also change the mutators/ini settings?

 

[NTKB]

Always Iceotoxin...

 

[geogob]

also change the mutators/ini settings?

no

 

[hara]

Errr guys, what you didn't get until now is that you simply did not understand the truth Duke and Taque already know for months: Inf is dead. And if you are playing, for whatever reason, a "dead" game online, it is OK to behave like a stupid pig and cheat.
Well, at least it is that what I understood from Taques weird comments on this topic.

Nonetheless: If cheating kicks Taque that much he can go on with that unnoticed. I wouldn't mind. I just feel sorry, cause it starts being boring for many other players. What disappoints me is not the point about cheating (hell, it's a game, if you like to cheat and know how you can do that and there is nothing anyone here can do), but keeping a major problem in the code of WP1.2 a secret to the community. This is IMHO the most annoying part of the whole story. Boy, Taque you behave like an idiot, I did hope you had more reason...

Is there a server which keeps this "bug"? Hehe, I like the idea of having some nice nadefights.

BTW: Who is Duke?

 

[NTKB]

Dukenukem 3D.

I think the intention if cought was at the very least to attract more players to INF, much like yourself who has not been around playing perhaps? Ding ding ding 3 points! :tup:

 

[Blitzschlag]

Is there a server which keeps this "bug"? Hehe, I like the idea of having some nice nadefights.

BTW: Who is Duke?

An Stand alone Muti with this nades is on the way

 

[geogob]

An Stand alone Muti with this nades is on the way

Maybe.

 

[Nukeproof]

The real problem is that - even if you get caught - you loose little. Just the intergrity of your virtual online personality... so what?

Change ISP, get a new nick and start over with a clean record. In older games you didn't even waste money for your online account...

I advise you guys to get some RL lesson: Go ahead and try to cheat on a Hell's Angels Poker Party next time and learn that well deserved lesson "How to pickup your own teeth with broken fingers".

Apart from that, I don't give a flying f#ck on those lame ass sorry excuse explanations - reading 'em is already showing too much respect to those individuals and basically a waste of time... what could they possibly write to make anybody reconsider?

 

[Harrm]

It's awfully convenient to apply this situation to everything and explain all of your individual failures in certain areas of the game.

It's awfully convenient that accusations didn't start until just after WP1.2 was released. And dont peg the other's thoughts in these forums as the opinion of the entire community. To some of us, myself included, it's not because of the cheating, it was because of how it was done.

Bull**** + 1.

Outlaw is witness to this...at least he was there on TS with me at the time:

After winning a round of 1v2 using nothing but a hipped mini, Duke said something to the effect of "You're not that good, I'm better than you." From that point on, Duke became unwinnable to play against. So, please, talk about how you mostly used those codes against each other some more.

Why would he have almost 10 keybinds with specific names (look post #1).

Actually, I'm suprised my name wasn't on there.

Lastly, all about that crap saying that "if it takes this to rally the INF community..." is bull. Because now, I want to wait to reinstall INF because now I have to re-download the weapon pack.

--Harrm

 

[Beppo]

well...

- folks that use cheats and hacks are just lame. if they need cheats to get their 'reputation' up or to have the biggest balls out there... well, their problem, not mine till they use these cheats against me or within a league/war... then they start to get a problem with me and every cheater that is caught should simply be banned from the servers. Well, nothing much there to stop them using a new nick, ip aso, but at least their old name gets wiped out from any league/war/clan actions and that's the only thing that counts then.

- folks that code cheats are a different story. Why they do it is up to them and if they really need this **** for a penis substitute then well, go for it. Nothing much you can do against these idiots that only want to show how cool they are or want to **** up the community or whatever. Most times the stuff added to protect a game from cheating gets hacked and then new stuff is developed to block the latest exploit and then this goes on and on... nothing nice but normally under control in one way or another. It sucks, but well... who cares...

- but, implementing cheats, hacks or non public 'easter eggs' to a community add-on comes close to developing a virus, trojan or stuff alike. You spread it throughout a community that is dumb, blind or whatever enough to trust you and the stuff you produce. Hope ya had fun showing off your elephant cochones and your humpback whale's penis enlargement... woohoo... [/sarcasm for those not getting it]

The only thing that makes this stuff a bit funny is the fact that Duke did not even tried to comouflage the codes in any way it seems... makes the cochones even bigger...

And to Taque... I simply do not understand one simple fact... you knew the 'easter eggs' and you used them within a league for a period of time instead of making them public to everyone once you got introduced to them... seems you were in need of some elephant and whale equipment too...

At the time you two used them in league/war matches you crossed a line and this simply cannot be tolerated by any kind of community. So, take proper actions and leave.