"Winning hearts and minds.."
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[SARCASM] Staged. Just like the man on the moon and everything else. Your life is one big lie. Lay down and blow your brains out it doesnt matter. This was a public service announcement brought to you by one pissed off Iraqi. [/SARCASM]
Too f@cking bad. Am I supposed to feel bad for the looter? Maybe the GIs shouldn't have enjoyed it so much, but if you don't want your car crushed by an M1 Abrams, don't loot. Simple problem, simple solution.
Matthew
Matthew
You seem to be missing the point. The US is trying to "win hearts and minds"; using excessive force against people who gather wood is not the way to win them over.
I'd laugh my ass off if those guys came under fire. Yet more fuel for the fire marked: "The US. Annoying yapping puppy sticking it's nose in everything.". People wonder why so many "peace keepers" are being shot... this is why. Pathetic ego-boosting machismo bullshit.
Insomniac said:
I don't get it... What's to be ashamed of? Looters are scumbags and they were being dealt with - perhaps a bit harsh, and like I said above, maybe the GIs could have masked their enjoyment a bit more...
I don't feel sorry for the looter. Iraq is/was under martial law. Break the laws at your own risk. You reaps what you soes.
Zundfolge said:I bet the guy who owned the wood the looters were stealing (er..."gathering") is probably pretty won over
Couldn't have said it better myself!
Matthew
"We are trying to stop them from looting, but they don't understand ... so we take their car" ????
Hey wacko ... perhaps you should learn to speak Iraqi (sp?) before doing stuff like this.
Oh well ... brawn over brains ... it's the army way of getting it done, isn't it ?
Hey wacko ... perhaps you should learn to speak Iraqi (sp?) before doing stuff like this.
Oh well ... brawn over brains ... it's the army way of getting it done, isn't it ?
Actually it is working but you will never hear about it because it is reported very little.
First off I do agree Bush has screwed things up real bad.
Although they want them to leave and view them as occupiers when asked if they should leave sooner, ie next month, most Iraqis say no.
The view is very much slanted by the media. Not to be out done the government is slanting the story way over the top the other way.
Also the Iraqis have a general hatred for their own media due to the fact that it is way over the top anti American and not bothering to show the vast improvements in the country.
First off I do agree Bush has screwed things up real bad.
Although they want them to leave and view them as occupiers when asked if they should leave sooner, ie next month, most Iraqis say no.
The view is very much slanted by the media. Not to be out done the government is slanting the story way over the top the other way.
Also the Iraqis have a general hatred for their own media due to the fact that it is way over the top anti American and not bothering to show the vast improvements in the country.
You do realize that if they really would've been thieves, the original owner of the car probably would like to have his car back? But you won't think that much.
If the same situation would happen in your streets, would you find it acceptable? I sure as hell would not.
If the same situation would happen in your streets, would you find it acceptable? I sure as hell would not.
Except that these mind-numbingly stupid excuses for human beings crushed his wood along with the car.
You have a bunch of ghuys there who
1: want to go home
2: dont understand the language, and arent understood by some 70% of the people they are expected to protect
Furthermore the US media doesnt care about good news, as that doesnt fulfill the image that the rest of the world (their customers) has. so you wont see it.
Mosul was filled with pro-saddam sunnites in the 90's, as it is an economic centre (oil) which. these guys got their housing from the regime and are not likely to give up
1: want to go home
2: dont understand the language, and arent understood by some 70% of the people they are expected to protect
Furthermore the US media doesnt care about good news, as that doesnt fulfill the image that the rest of the world (their customers) has. so you wont see it.
Mosul was filled with pro-saddam sunnites in the 90's, as it is an economic centre (oil) which. these guys got their housing from the regime and are not likely to give up
the best thing the US can do in iraq is getting different housing and levelling saddams houses of horror. they have to get their asses out of those nice palaces as too many horrible things have happened inside there.
the best thing the US can do in iraq (beside actually doing their job ) is to set up camps inside cities and popular districts, learn the language and the culture, and buy and eat local food instead of fries and sandwitches. I've seen a little documentary about french soldiers in foreign countries. They usually do lots of effort to get along with the local population (for instance the french Chef visiting the popular markets every morning for the daily meals 
. The US army on the other hand usually settles away from the cities, even in peace time or in friendly countries 
) is to set up camps inside cities and popular districts, learn the language and the culture, and buy and eat local food instead of fries and sandwitches. I've seen a little documentary about french soldiers in foreign countries. They usually do lots of effort to get along with the local population (for instance the french Chef visiting the popular markets every morning for the daily meals . The US army on the other hand usually settles away from the cities, even in peace time or in friendly countries
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