Epic Announces "Major" UT3 Expansion

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Sir_Brizz

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Bring back the variety and VISIBILITY that the ut2k4 player models had.
WHAAAAAAT? Did you ever play UT2004? Model visibility was the number one complaint for the entire time people played that game!
PUT THE CAMERA BACK INTO THE TRANSLOCATOR (I've heard some mods have done it, surely you guys can)
They explained why they didn't do that before the game even came out. It wasn't a technical problem, it was a design decision.
Like UT2k4, give us some alternate weapon models. I quickly grew tired of all my weapons looking like insects. Maybe have the current weapons for the necris and something new and more earthly for the other factions.
UT2004 only had different weapon models because they changed several of them for UT2004 and included the UT2003 models.
DID YOU NOT WATCH The Chronicles of Riddick? How could you possibly justify moving forward with the Necris when you know everyone's already seen a move full of NECROMONGERS? There are just too many similarities. Your "creative" people should be fired.
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DID YOU NOT WATCH The Chronicles of Riddick? How could you possibly justify moving forward with the Necris when you know everyone's already seen a move full of NECROMONGERS? There are just too many similarities. Your "creative" people should be fired.

This is quite possibly, the funniest thing I've ever read. :y5:
 

Alhanalem

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if Epic hadnt destroyed the ability to make voicepacks you would already have this
It's certainly possible to have custom voices, though I'm guessing that they're tied to their models. (Runestorm's Crusader model has a custom voice)
 

Kantham

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Yay reporting trolls is such fun :D.

Reporting yourself must be fun indeed.
You see, I'm not the one who's spreading the huge crap around here.

Your presence on this board is no use. Help and respect others.
 

Sjosz

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It would seem, based on these comments, that whatever Epic does, they cannot possibly win. Release a game, community complains. Release a patch, community complains. Announce new content/update/expansion/bonus pack.... guess what? Community complains.
(Make a post about people complaining? See what happens)

If you care so much that you want to suggest something, could you please consider writing it in such a way that it actually seems constructive? Good grief, people should be happy that an expansion has been announced. I know I am.
 
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Wow, so many comments on so little info. The speculation-mill just can't keep spouting crap fast enough, can it?

It would seem, based on these comments, that whatever Epic does, they cannot possibly win. Release a game, community complains. Release a patch, community complains. Announce new content/update/expansion/bonus pack.... guess what? Community complains.
(Make a post about people complaining? See what happens)

If you care so much that you want to suggest something, could you please consider writing it in such a way that it actually seems constructive? Good grief, people should be happy that an expansion has been announced. I know I am.
Agreed.
 

TheIronKnuckle

What the hell is this "ballin" thing?
there's no option to set game speed before a botmatch? can't remember seeing the option, is it in mutators like ut2004? all the previous u1/ut99 games had a game speed option to modify. That will solve your personal problems with the speed.
TBH i actually like the current game speed. The only thing wrong with it for me is that the bots are also being sped up and as a result are quite frustrating to play against.
There is a mutator called "slomo". Thats the only gamespeed altering stuff available and it isn't even that good. It takes the speed down to something like 90%. Still, that's closer to 100% then the default 120% is.
I don't think the default speed should be reduced though, seemed fine before, but then I'm really used to fast paced shooters - on and offline. Playing online can improve your skills and reaction times when playing against real people - can make you better against bots in the long run. Game speed mutator should solve your problem though, should be included already.. confirm?
Like i've said, i find the current game speed to be perfect, but the only thing is the bots. They are playing too fast when compared to humans even on the lower skill levels.

And i simply don't want to play online :p

You are an offline player who is holding a 1v1 maping contest? How can you understand a maps flow by playing it against bots and not other humans.
How can you understand a maps flow by playing it against humans and not bots? It doesn't make a difference how you choose to play. Understanding map flow is not determined by whether you play online or offline.
Thanks but no thanks to your contest.
whatever.... You probably can't map for **** anyway so your submission is one i don't care about losing.
Offline players have no idea what makes a good map compared to a b ad map.
I am completely sick of the prejudiced bull**** that gets said about offline gamers on this forum.
Who the **** are you to say whether offliners aren't capable of discerning a good map from a bad one?
Considering how many "dm-christmass-bathroom-1337 edition-OMGWTF" servers there are out there i would say that onliners can't see what makes a good map. When people play BS like that you have to wonder..........
But that is of course not true. It's only onliners that act like you that don't know jack about anything.
I agree 100% with you there. The Bot skill level in the original UT was perfect, plus we were able to customize each one of them. This feature needs to return.
The thing which i loved about ut99 bots were that they were solid. Giving orders to bots in 2k3/4 was futile. The bots didn't follow the orders anyway.
And telling a bot to "cover me" was stupid in 2k4 because they would just stand around staring at you while getting pwned by a shock rifle.

In UT99 you could go somewhere (like the top of one of the towers on barricade for example) and say "hold this position---all". Your whole team of bots would turn up at the area and start defending it as if it were a flag room. Some bots would go and patrol the surrounding area too. That AI was awsome.

In ut3 the way the bots communicate in team games is pretty good, but aside from that they are meh. They are too frustrating because of the game speed they are playing at.

The AI of ut99 is what needs to be emulated. AND the ability to give orders before the match has begun.


If you care so much that you want to suggest something, could you please consider writing it in such a way that it actually seems constructive? Good grief, people should be happy that an expansion has been announced. I know I am.
QFT.
I'm looking forward to this.

And would someone please ban the troll? He's really pissing me off. (And various others it seems)
 
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SPIDEYUT2K7

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Epic ear our voices

SANTA : i wrote this letter because i want my UT back to the original roots, as a present give us a good expansion pack...Amen and merry christmas :eek:

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brdempsey69

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The thing which i loved about ut99 bots were that they were solid. Giving orders to bots in 2k3/4 was futile. The bots didn't follow the orders anyway.
And telling a bot to "cover me" was stupid in 2k4 because they would just stand around staring at you while getting pwned by a shock rifle.

In UT99 you could go somewhere (like the top of one of the towers on barricade for example) and say "hold this position---all". Your whole team of bots would turn up at the area and start defending it as if it were a flag room. Some bots would go and patrol the surrounding area too. That AI was awsome.

In ut3 the way the bots communicate in team games is pretty good, but aside from that they are meh. They are too frustrating because of the game speed they are playing at.

The AI of ut99 is what needs to be emulated. AND the ability to give orders before the match has begun.

That is precisely what makes UT bots the best of the series. I noticed the same thing in UT2k3/4 that you touched on. I used a program called Milkshape 3D to port some 2k4 models over UT and brought their sounds and voices with them, because I was curious to see how they fit in to the original UT. Turns out they fit in quite well and added nice variety to my bot roster.

Like you said the UT AI needs to be emulated in UT3 and I'd really dig seeing it implemented in this expansion pack, but time will tell.
 

TheIronKnuckle

What the hell is this "ballin" thing?
Then again, some aspects of the bots are better in the sequels. The bots are actually more realistic in 2kx and ut3. But while they are more realistic and challenging in the sequels, they are not as solid as in ut99. The ut99 bots feel "finished". The ut3 and 2kx bots do not.
And i love the sentence under your username BTW. UT classic FTW!
 

MonsOlympus

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On the topic of bots, I hate that they dont track multiple opponents and even worse they'll completely ignore you to get a shield belt that is of no use to them after you unloaded triplerox into their back.
 

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This makes me very happy.

Obviously, we will all have to wait & see what is to come, but i'm glad to hear they are working on UT3 some more.

If they can pull off another UT2003 to UT2004 type maneuver, that'd make a lot of people very happy :D
 

MonsOlympus

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Yeah the bots certainly arnt stupid its just a few little things that stand out and really make em easier to exploit, so I do think there is room for a few improvements/tweaks in an expansion :cool:

Edit: Actually alittle more, another one is the bot skill level on instagib as soon as you turn that on its like raising the bot level a few notches. Dunno why, I get completely hammered by same skill bots in instagib->NW, think their aim might be alittle too good and tactics too low.

But hey atleast they arnt randomly ducking and crawling around anymore...

Also the difference between 1on1 bots and FFA bots should be there, its kinda annoying that its the same AI for both, even though its DM, they require slightly different approaches to be effective its like weapon stay off for eg. The bots just seem to have as minimal support for UT as they can which isnt a good thing, I do realize you have to weigh up things but with 50% of people not taking 2k4 online and assuming UT3 is a similar number if not more... Itd just be time well spent :cool:
 
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TheIronKnuckle

What the hell is this "ballin" thing?
Can someone get more info on this whole thing pronto

Emails to epic plz. They wont reply but hey.... I'm hyped! So i reckon it would be better to kill my hopes sooner rather then later.

Essentially the big question is what mark means by "major expansion".
A mere ECE style update? A UT2004 class Revamp? Or just another mappack?
ECE style update = less hype on my part but still something to look forward to.
An update like ut2k3->ut2k4 = w00tabuliciousific!
another map pack is meh. Something interesting but not overly exciting.
 

MaestroMaus

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It would seem, based on these comments, that whatever Epic does, they cannot possibly win. Release a game, community complains. Release a patch, community complains. Announce new content/update/expansion/bonus pack.... guess what? Community complains.
(Make a post about people complaining? See what happens)

If you care so much that you want to suggest something, could you please consider writing it in such a way that it actually seems constructive? Good grief, people should be happy that an expansion has been announced. I know I am.

We would have been whiners if you got your story right. Your story just skips all the negative reasons for us to bitch about it. Dream on.