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Well I now have WinXp running on the Mywi server and as I suspected, everything works 100% except VNC is still seen as a virus.
Only problem is neither can open the workgroup, yet if I do a: \\mywi\files
then the "files" folder opens no problem and I can transfer files - wierd but at least I can transfer files.
I think I'm gonna dump AVG now and switch back to McAfee, Nortons or Trend.
AVG has also screwed up my code editor (UltraEdit32) which now takes forever to load and used to take less than 1 second.
I think AVG are makings so much $$$ now, they are turning out junk without beta testing - funny how all companies go that way in the end.
Only problem is neither can open the workgroup, yet if I do a: \\mywi\files
then the "files" folder opens no problem and I can transfer files - wierd but at least I can transfer files.
I think I'm gonna dump AVG now and switch back to McAfee, Nortons or Trend.
AVG has also screwed up my code editor (UltraEdit32) which now takes forever to load and used to take less than 1 second.
I think AVG are makings so much $$$ now, they are turning out junk without beta testing - funny how all companies go that way in the end.
your workgroup-probleme is well known here, i have the same thing, but only for a couple of minutes... then it finds the computer in the workgroup. This shouldn't happen if it once recognices the computer, because on one pc the "namelist" will be saved.
regarding avg, did you get in contact with them? if you pay for their service, they imho should have a solution for that vnc-probleme, like manually setting that file as non-virus. That behaviour really sucks
regarding avg, did you get in contact with them? if you pay for their service, they imho should have a solution for that vnc-probleme, like manually setting that file as non-virus. That behaviour really sucks
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LOL, regarding AVG, they have a forum which works well for complaints and stuff as I used it before... BUT, I lost my logon password and so I asked for another and they email me the password, and even with the new password I cannot login, so I get another password and so it goes on, and I still cannot get on
Socke, you know Sygate, well I'm using it now on my Mywi server and it is very nice.
I only have one problem and maybe you can help me here.
After a period of time, and I try to look at a folder on the Server from my PC it says it cannot find the "path" or something.
If I now go onto the Server, rightclick on SyGate and select "Allow All" then my PC can get in and I can do what I like, and I then set Sygate back to "Normal".
What is it in SyGate that stops PC's on the LAN getting on.
Things I have found and set but it still makes no difference.
1. I found that TCP/IP Services was being blocked and it needs that, so I set that to Allow.
2. I also set a "Rule" to allow all 192.168 IP addresses from my LAN.
3. Anything that triggered a prompt, I made a note of and set it for "Allow"
With all that done SyGate still blocks my LAN - what can I do as its a pain in the butt everytime I want LAN access, to connect a monitor, connect a mouse, then set it on "Allow All" - get access, set it back to "Normal", remove and pack away the monitor and mouse..... etc
Socke, you know Sygate, well I'm using it now on my Mywi server and it is very nice.
I only have one problem and maybe you can help me here.
After a period of time, and I try to look at a folder on the Server from my PC it says it cannot find the "path" or something.
If I now go onto the Server, rightclick on SyGate and select "Allow All" then my PC can get in and I can do what I like, and I then set Sygate back to "Normal".
What is it in SyGate that stops PC's on the LAN getting on.
Things I have found and set but it still makes no difference.
1. I found that TCP/IP Services was being blocked and it needs that, so I set that to Allow.
2. I also set a "Rule" to allow all 192.168 IP addresses from my LAN.
3. Anything that triggered a prompt, I made a note of and set it for "Allow"
With all that done SyGate still blocks my LAN - what can I do as its a pain in the butt everytime I want LAN access, to connect a monitor, connect a mouse, then set it on "Allow All" - get access, set it back to "Normal", remove and pack away the monitor and mouse..... etc
I already have these 3 set (ticked)
Automatically load Sygate Personal Firewall at startup.
Allow to browse Network Neighborhood files and printer(s).
Allow others to share my files and printer(s).
The others I dont quite understand.
Must I set Sygate to "Block" instead of "Normal" ?
Then must I tick or untick the "Block Network Neighborhood traffic while in screensaver mode" ?
Automatically load Sygate Personal Firewall at startup.
Allow to browse Network Neighborhood files and printer(s).
Allow others to share my files and printer(s).
The others I dont quite understand.
Must I set Sygate to "Block" instead of "Normal" ?
Then must I tick or untick the "Block Network Neighborhood traffic while in screensaver mode" ?
Ahh ok well that is how it was, also I have screen savers disabled.
Anyway with how it is it still has the problem that I have to first set it to "Allow All" before I can get on.
Anyway with how it is it still has the problem that I have to first set it to "Allow All" before I can get on.
Well I dont understand anymore.
I am now totally locked out, cannot see the PC cannot see the files nothing and that regardless of the settings, and I even Exited the Sygate firewall so its not even there.
I have to reboot the server.
It is now behaving EXACTLY like it did when I had Win2k on it so I wasted my time putting Xp pro on as the fault is now the same.
Once I rebooted the server, everything works like its supposed to except I had to set it to "Allow All", but I know that in an hour or 2 I will no longer be able to see it.
Looks like the only route now is Linux.
I am now totally locked out, cannot see the PC cannot see the files nothing and that regardless of the settings, and I even Exited the Sygate firewall so its not even there.
I have to reboot the server.
It is now behaving EXACTLY like it did when I had Win2k on it so I wasted my time putting Xp pro on as the fault is now the same.
Once I rebooted the server, everything works like its supposed to except I had to set it to "Allow All", but I know that in an hour or 2 I will no longer be able to see it.
Looks like the only route now is Linux.
I have come to the conclusion that the new WinXp installation on my PC which I did a few weeks ago which started all this must be flawed somehow as my wifes PC also runs WinXp Pro and she does not have any of these problems.
So this weekend (maybe) I will reformat and re-install once again.
Eish to go through all that M$ activation again, you have no idea the kinda staff that works for M$ out here - it can take days to get WinXp activated
So this weekend (maybe) I will reformat and re-install once again.
Eish to go through all that M$ activation again, you have no idea the kinda staff that works for M$ out here - it can take days to get WinXp activated
ProAsm said:I have come to the conclusion that the new WinXp installation on my PC which I did a few weeks ago which started all this must be flawed somehow as my wifes PC also runs WinXp Pro and she does not have any of these problems.
So this weekend (maybe) I will reformat and re-install once again.
Eish to go through all that M$ activation again, you have no idea the kinda staff that works for M$ out here - it can take days to get WinXp activated
i used ot have to call everytime on Office XP..everytime i formated...not sure hwy it stopped asking now...now it always works online...guess i was changing hardware as well at the time of format or something...made it not so fun to format that's for sure..
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try using a volume license key then you dont need to activate it HX2BJ-YJTTY-T27MD-767KP-JGRPJ im pretty sure it will work for you the only thing is windows update has a new licences check but its allready been cracked lol
"Microsoft "Genuine Advantage" cracked in 24h: window.g_sDisableWGACheck='all'
AV sez, "This week, Microsoft started requiring users to verifiy their serial number before using Windows Update. This effort to force users to either buy XP or tell them where you got the illegal copy is called 'Genuine Advantage.' It was cracked within 24 hours."
Before pressing 'Custom' or 'Express' buttons paste this text to the address bar and press enter:
javascript:void(window.g_sDisableWGACheck='all')
It turns off the trigger for the key check.
this worked fine for me np i have always used a vlk key not once have i had to go through the aggravation of activation
"Microsoft "Genuine Advantage" cracked in 24h: window.g_sDisableWGACheck='all'
AV sez, "This week, Microsoft started requiring users to verifiy their serial number before using Windows Update. This effort to force users to either buy XP or tell them where you got the illegal copy is called 'Genuine Advantage.' It was cracked within 24 hours."
Before pressing 'Custom' or 'Express' buttons paste this text to the address bar and press enter:
javascript:void(window.g_sDisableWGACheck='all')
It turns off the trigger for the key check.
this worked fine for me np i have always used a vlk key not once have i had to go through the aggravation of activation
Wow, thanks I'll check that out for sure
At work I have no choice but to use a warez copy of Xp Pro, although I do have a new Xp Pro - Sp2 cd, but the warez is installed, simply because that PC could have 3 different motherboards in it in any given week as it is like a test PC for everything.
Unfortunately it is an original version before even SP1, and even if I go through the "cracked" update using a keygen etc, to get SP1 installed it crashes bad, so I'm stuck else I would use it here at home as well.
Here at home I have 2 cd's, the Xp pro - SP1 and the new Xp Pro - Sp2
Last reformat I did install the new CD with Sp2, but it caused all sorts of havoc with my compiling, games and all sorts of problems, I reformated again and installed the SP1 cd and all is well, except for this stupid network problem.
When and where to you get this "Press 'Custom' or 'Express' buttons" ?
At work I have no choice but to use a warez copy of Xp Pro, although I do have a new Xp Pro - Sp2 cd, but the warez is installed, simply because that PC could have 3 different motherboards in it in any given week as it is like a test PC for everything.
Unfortunately it is an original version before even SP1, and even if I go through the "cracked" update using a keygen etc, to get SP1 installed it crashes bad, so I'm stuck else I would use it here at home as well.
Here at home I have 2 cd's, the Xp pro - SP1 and the new Xp Pro - Sp2
Last reformat I did install the new CD with Sp2, but it caused all sorts of havoc with my compiling, games and all sorts of problems, I reformated again and installed the SP1 cd and all is well, except for this stupid network problem.
When and where to you get this "Press 'Custom' or 'Express' buttons" ?
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you get that at windows update if you use it see ms has a new thing to check for warez keys when u go to windows update called "Microsoft Genuine Advantage" that you must install prior to recieving any updates its java based thing that reads your cd key and if u have a black listed key u dont get any updates thats all heres a couple links better explaining it
http://www.boingboing.net/2005/07/28/microsoft_genuine_ad.html
http://www.betanews.com/article/Windows_Piracy_Check_Now_Mandatory/1122394903
http://www.boingboing.net/2005/07/28/microsoft_genuine_ad.html
http://www.betanews.com/article/Windows_Piracy_Check_Now_Mandatory/1122394903
first, sorry for not answering the last days, i was in munich for work for 2 days and my wife had birthday yesterday, so we had a bunch of work the whole weekend...
no, please not. Do not try linux, if you don't really have a lot of time, or already know, what you are doing...
didn't the w2k-problem only come up, if a pc with 2k was running? now you say, the same thing happens, if the server runs at xp?
did you already try switching off everything, including all switches and routers, then going turning on again, starting with the server, letting it run for a while, then the switches, and last the routers and clients? What worries me is the 2 hours, that's really a long time. Too much for an ip-misconfig, i'd say.
Another thing to try is disabeling the second nic in the server, so running it as a lan-server only and waiting for the probleme to come up...
if the lockdown comes up, does the server go into something like suspend, or power-saving, or even logging out the user?
Imho there must be something happening after 2 hours, maybe some kind of service, i dunno. Can you check everything you installed on that machine, not beeing standard-windows-software?
what if you disconnect your pc from the network, and only use server, and maybe your wifes pc, will it still happen? Only to make shure, there is no going mad service on your machine...
edit: No, please don't tell me, you are using a warez-copy, please no, please...
no, please not. Do not try linux, if you don't really have a lot of time, or already know, what you are doing...
didn't the w2k-problem only come up, if a pc with 2k was running? now you say, the same thing happens, if the server runs at xp?
did you already try switching off everything, including all switches and routers, then going turning on again, starting with the server, letting it run for a while, then the switches, and last the routers and clients? What worries me is the 2 hours, that's really a long time. Too much for an ip-misconfig, i'd say.
Another thing to try is disabeling the second nic in the server, so running it as a lan-server only and waiting for the probleme to come up...
if the lockdown comes up, does the server go into something like suspend, or power-saving, or even logging out the user?
Imho there must be something happening after 2 hours, maybe some kind of service, i dunno. Can you check everything you installed on that machine, not beeing standard-windows-software?
what if you disconnect your pc from the network, and only use server, and maybe your wifes pc, will it still happen? Only to make shure, there is no going mad service on your machine...
edit: No, please don't tell me, you are using a warez-copy, please no, please...
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Thanks shov3l for that, I most certainly will check it out.
I cannot understand how M$ did this and still made money by pissing people off.
I can understand destitute countries using warez copies but most place will buy the cd.
Hell out here a Xp-Pro SP2 cd is only about $80 these days.
I know out east and I'm sure frogger must have bumped into these by now is India produces there own XP (or anything you want) for around $15 and those cd's are seen everywhere, even out here although they are trying to clamp down on them now.
So forcing a person to go through all this activation crap is VERY annoying to say the least.
Hell we using applications at work that cost $4000+ and they dont have this crap.
Hell at work I am currently in posession of 2 x Win98SE cd's, 1 x Win2k, 1 x Win2k SP2, 1 x Win2k SP4, 1 x WinXp Home, 1 x WinXp Pro SP1, 1 x WinXp Pro Sp2
The Win2k Sp2, the WinXp Home and the WinXp Pro Sp2 are still in there origanal form, never been unpacked or used AND I have a warez copy of WinXp Pro Sp1 installed on my PC - its a friggin joke when you think about it
Socke onto your stuff:
The problem is still there as always with the Win2k server and the only way I can get my PC to see this server's folders on the LAN is to reboot this server, then all is ok for about an hour then once again I cannot see it.
On the second server, the one now using WinXp Pro, the problem is with Sygate and not Xp.
If I switch off the Sygate firewall, or set it to Allow All, then all my problems go away and I can see the Xp server any time I want.
I have now tried every setting there is in Sygate and still it blocks and LAN access.
I'll try and get some snapshots of all the settings I've setup in Sygate and show them to you.
I've also had a bit of a seto with AVG and will probably be dumping them soon, then I can get you VNC access again and you can come look for yourself.
Check the AVG Free forum for "Computer Slowdown" by Username_already_used
In the Sygate "Advanced Application Configurations" I have made ALL the Windows System32 applications trust the IP range from 192.168.0.1-192.168.0.10
Also all those icons that show when you install Sygate (about 6 of them) I've set to Allow.
Now this is is what "seems" to be happening to me.
When I request to look at this server, it looks like the server is accepting commands coming from the PC's on the LAN, BUT will not talk back.
The reason I say this is during this time it keeps popping up a window telling me its Blocked and application called Generic Host Process for Windows Services - C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
Now although I have set everything to to with that application as Allow it still blocks it.
I've even told it to trust the IP range 192.168.0.1-192.168.0.10 but still it gets blocked.
I feel if I could get Sygate not to block this application, then everything should work.
Your other questions relate mainly to the problems on the Win2k server which I'm not too worried about atm and will probably put Xp on or we can sort that out later.
Next time you install WinXp try calling the South African M$ office for activation and I can guarentee, you will then download a warez copy
I cannot understand how M$ did this and still made money by pissing people off.
I can understand destitute countries using warez copies but most place will buy the cd.
Hell out here a Xp-Pro SP2 cd is only about $80 these days.
I know out east and I'm sure frogger must have bumped into these by now is India produces there own XP (or anything you want) for around $15 and those cd's are seen everywhere, even out here although they are trying to clamp down on them now.
So forcing a person to go through all this activation crap is VERY annoying to say the least.
Hell we using applications at work that cost $4000+ and they dont have this crap.
Hell at work I am currently in posession of 2 x Win98SE cd's, 1 x Win2k, 1 x Win2k SP2, 1 x Win2k SP4, 1 x WinXp Home, 1 x WinXp Pro SP1, 1 x WinXp Pro Sp2
The Win2k Sp2, the WinXp Home and the WinXp Pro Sp2 are still in there origanal form, never been unpacked or used AND I have a warez copy of WinXp Pro Sp1 installed on my PC - its a friggin joke when you think about it
Socke onto your stuff:
Ok, I wont go there as I dont know tha first thing about Linux and as you say, I dont have the time, although I did download the full 3.4 gig installation DVD Linux SUSE
I now have 2 servers, the original with Win2k SP4 and the new one which now uses WinXp Pro SP 1.
The problem is still there as always with the Win2k server and the only way I can get my PC to see this server's folders on the LAN is to reboot this server, then all is ok for about an hour then once again I cannot see it.
On the second server, the one now using WinXp Pro, the problem is with Sygate and not Xp.
If I switch off the Sygate firewall, or set it to Allow All, then all my problems go away and I can see the Xp server any time I want.
I have now tried every setting there is in Sygate and still it blocks and LAN access.
I'll try and get some snapshots of all the settings I've setup in Sygate and show them to you.
I've also had a bit of a seto with AVG and will probably be dumping them soon, then I can get you VNC access again and you can come look for yourself.
Check the AVG Free forum for "Computer Slowdown" by Username_already_used
In the Sygate "Advanced Application Configurations" I have made ALL the Windows System32 applications trust the IP range from 192.168.0.1-192.168.0.10
Also all those icons that show when you install Sygate (about 6 of them) I've set to Allow.
Now this is is what "seems" to be happening to me.
When I request to look at this server, it looks like the server is accepting commands coming from the PC's on the LAN, BUT will not talk back.
The reason I say this is during this time it keeps popping up a window telling me its Blocked and application called Generic Host Process for Windows Services - C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
Now although I have set everything to to with that application as Allow it still blocks it.
I've even told it to trust the IP range 192.168.0.1-192.168.0.10 but still it gets blocked.
I feel if I could get Sygate not to block this application, then everything should work.
Your other questions relate mainly to the problems on the Win2k server which I'm not too worried about atm and will probably put Xp on or we can sort that out later.
NO at home here, I'm not using warez, but its very tempting
Next time you install WinXp try calling the South African M$ office for activation and I can guarentee, you will then download a warez copy
if you have an old p2 box with 128+ mb and a 2 gig hd id recommend ipcop i use it and have no problems networking pcs winxp and server2003 check it out http://ipcop.org/ turns that old p2 box into a router firewall install takes about 10 mins you dont need to know linux and no more sygate is needed
Yeah, I've heard of that IPCop and I do have and old P2 450 (Slot 1) PC here with 128 megs memory and a 3.4 gig HD.
I use it as a foot rest under my desk with a small cushion
It still works fine, so maybe I get it going.
Socke, I have made svchost as "Allow" as well made it see all 192.168 addresses, yet Sygate still blocks it everytime.
I tried putting a picture here by Sygate wont allow it through even though I have set inetinfo.exe as "ALLOW".
I have come to the conclusion that this Sygate is a load of junk as it does not know what the hell is going on.
You set things to allow, and it still blocks, it really does not know whats going on
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How good is the built in Windows Xp Firewall ?
Because if I enable that and disable Sygate then everything works great
I use it as a foot rest under my desk with a small cushion
It still works fine, so maybe I get it going.
Socke, I have made svchost as "Allow" as well made it see all 192.168 addresses, yet Sygate still blocks it everytime.
I tried putting a picture here by Sygate wont allow it through even though I have set inetinfo.exe as "ALLOW".
I have come to the conclusion that this Sygate is a load of junk as it does not know what the hell is going on.
You set things to allow, and it still blocks, it really does not know whats going on
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How good is the built in Windows Xp Firewall ?
Because if I enable that and disable Sygate then everything works great
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