Unfortunately, they were. But the whining and complaining about the length of time the release was in coming had grown to such a level that NOT releasing the beta would have been more detrimental to the community than releasing a public beta. In fact, many of the bugs in PB1 had been found by the Beta Testers already...but you wouldn't know that because all you care about is that it's not identical line for line to U2XMP.[tH]Angelus said:Shouldn't the closed "beta" testers have done that anyways?
Do you know ANYTHING about software development? It's pretty much recognized that an Alpha of software is NOT FEATURE COMPLETE. What "features" are missing from UTXMP whether or not they are working exactly right, even according to you?Maybe a pre-alpha but yeah ok.
This is a perfect example of one of the things that I personally think is A FUNDAMENTAL FLAW in U2XMP that should be removed from UTXMP. I knew alot of Rangers, even some "novice" ones, back in U2XMP that almost NEVER zoomed in. What is the point of giving the Ranger any other weapon than the Sniper Rifle if they can shoot it just as well as the Pistol in practically every situation?The sniper rifle needs very little fixing as it is almost the same as the U2XMP one except for the scope.
So in other words you think that your opinions are right and if anyone has an opposing opinion they are wrong.If you watched these forums more you may have noticed that I have already posted suggested changes and I agree with the majority of the community, at least at the start of their posts like the "movement isnt right" thread which started off with some honest opinions which i totally agreed with then morphed into a stupid bitching competition between people who had good views of the game and people who wanted to change this into some kind of crap mod for ut2k4.
What's this? You unwittingly proved my point that XMP is NOT ATTACHED TO ANY GAME??? You, my good man, are exactly right! This isn't Ut2004! It's also NOT U2XMP! It's XMP, only AS A MOD FOR UT2004.This is not ut2k4 its XMP!
So your true colors show through. You think that it's possible to have a perfect game and that U2XMP was it. You think that you don't need to change anything from one game to the next. If someone remade Wolfenstein 3D with updated Textures, you would pay $50 for it.I beg to differ
Apparently your first post has lost you more respect than it has gained you.more than I have for you kid
Considering that alot of the community has embraced UTXMP and many people that complained about the first beta are even know less concerned with the feel of the game I think that this view is more of a minority than majority. At least half of the 4 month ago U2XMP community has left U2XMP and moved to UTXMP. Why? Because it feels like XMP and it's fun. You're just mad because all of the exploits you could take advantage of before aren't in UTXMP.UTXMP is nothing like U2XMP. I understand there are some engine limitations and obviously those cant be gotten round, but there are major issues such as movement and game feeling that im sure arent caused by the engine.
It would still be XMP.err... no it wouldnt... by what you said it would be different, nice one lad, rofl.
XMP is a concept of [some number of] teams with [some number of] classes who capture certain objectives outside of their base to increase their "hold" on a map, use defensive deployables to defend their base, and try to capture all four of the "flags" (which could be just about anything).
XMP could easily be made into a four team game, a six team game, a three team game and still be XMP. XMP could easily have eight artifacts, three artifacts, six artifacts and STILL BE XMP. It could easily have a completely different array of weapons (i.e. UT2004 weapons) AND IT WOULD STILL BE XMP.
However, the problem isn't that you want to play XMP but better but that you want to play U2XMP on a better Master Server. My suggestion to you would be to write a modification to UTXMP that makes it identical to U2XMP and see how no one wants to play it.
Are your reading comprehension skills in the negatives? I like U2XMP just fine! However, there is no reason to port the game if no improvements are going to be made. Just leave it where it is and let it stagnate (because eventually you will find a game you like better and play that and no one will be left playing U2XMP).So you dont even like U2XMP then?!?
Maybe you ought to try and show it better than you did in your first post. You really haven't gained any "friends" here, more likely enemies. Additionally, you are the minority still.I am very happy and grateful for what FMI are trying to do but I am not happy and grateful for what is in front of me at this stage.
Wrong. That is ENTIRELY your own opinion. Many here, including people from Legend Entertainment, the developers of FMI and U2XMP community members will completely disagree with that statement on many grounds. At the very least, fps and netcode.No, my feedback is going to be the most helpful thing that has been said on these forums. Im saying we have to listen to people who want UTXMP to be as similar to U2XMP as possible, because U2XMP was perfect,
There are thousands of people who would tend to disagree with that statement.UT2K4 is far from it,
You (and several other people on these forums) need to pull your head out and recognize that U2XMP IS DEAD. No new players are coming to it, less than 100 people are playing it at any one time. The master server goes up and down. And it is incredibly unfriendly to noobs (and lots of regular players will attest to that).I dont want UTXMP to die within a month of its birth and if its like U2XMP it wont!
Many CTF players from these forums are already playing UTXMP regularly. Try not putting words into the community's mouth for once.because FMI cant aim to please the UT2K4 community with the mod simply because the UT2K4 community cant be expected to budge from their respective game eg ctf and ictf.
Oh we do? I forgot where you said that FMI should care what the "experienced" players think. I haven't heard as much whining from a community about so many things as I have heard in this forum about UTXMP since the day Ut2k3 came out. The simple fact is: many of the "experienced" players are whining but most of the community is not. New players are not going to come to U2XMP on UT2004 because new players never stayed on U2XMP before the Master Server problems.Therefore the people which FMI have to aim at is new players and ex-U2XMP players and to please them we have to listen to the experienced and known players of U2XMP.
You mean out of the whole 90 persona playerbase there's only like 30 of them left? Imagine that.I am doing for now, but atm the master server's down again... one of "the real" xmp's only two problems and servers are quite laggy (its second problem) so there are few players, but the ones that are left nearly all have UT2K4 and dont want to play UTXMP so I think there lies the proof of a loss of community potentials by differing from a simple port.
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