Scientists Call Fish Fossil the 'Missing Link'

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ReD_Fist

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Cat Fuzz said:
I really don't understand the praying to saints thing. I havn't found anything in the Bible that talks about praying to saints. I know they think it has something to do with their belief thats saints can be intercessors on your behalf to God but the Bible teaches ME that there is only one intercessor, Jesus. I also have learned that ALL who believe in Jesus are saints in God's eyes and this business to "sainting" people as if they are somehow better than the rest of us is just a bunch of bunk. Then there's the whole concept of purgatory that was quite clearly made-up in the 12th century or so. There is no mention or hint of a place called purgatory in the Bible.

So, I guess if "following the Bible" means making up stuff, they are following the Bible pretty well.

See all of that stuff is like being against the force of a man made religion too much,instead of being for or believing in God.
So being good or being religious becomes the main issue then deflecting a "spirit" or ones inner thoughts and soul wich I thought was the reason for going to church in the first place.
 

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Cat Fuzz said:
I don't, but there is a difference between a crucifix and a cross and there's a difference between worshipping said items and simply having them as a reminder of Christ's sacrifice.
Who says they are literally worshipping glass windows or statues. "Praise the Holy block of marble!!!"
Mister_Prophet said:
So hmmm, any more thoughts on that big fish?
I tought there were also living species of fish that have something resembling legs.

ReD_Fist said:
A cross is not an "idol" nor an "image" of another God.
Yes, it's just a piece of wood (or any other fabric). Just like a flag is just another piece of printed cloth.
But it's the association that gives it meaning (to some people).
ReD_Fist said:
But the thing that strikes me in this day in age are all the robes and hat thingys still midevil times for them.
That's called tradition. Why do judges still wear dresses?
Cat Fuzz said:
So, I guess if "following the Bible" means making up stuff, they are following the Bible pretty well.
Do you really think the bible, as we know it now, is accurate to what Jezus actually said and tought back then?
 
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G said:
I tought there were also living species of fish that have something resembling legs.

There are. Forgot name, but these fish can breathe in water and leave the surface to crawl around on sort of fin-appendages for some time. However, I think they are classified as true amphibians and nearly every scientific study on them that I have read don't classifiy them or identify them as missing links or living missing links. Think of them as frogs without digits I guess. I forgot the reasons they gave but it isn't the same situation as with this new fish fossil they found.

That's the only one I've heard of.
 

Balton

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ReD_Fist said:
Nor will any other LIVING thing prove evolution.sorry

Men came from apes and woman came from unicorns.:D


You're prove enough of our ape-erian origin :D
 

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Mister_Prophet said:
There are. Forgot name, but these fish can breathe in water and leave the surface to crawl around on sort of fin-appendages for some time. However, I think they are classified as true amphibians and nearly every scientific study on them that I have read don't classifiy them or identify them as missing links or living missing links. Think of them as frogs without digits I guess. I forgot the reasons they gave but it isn't the same situation as with this new fish fossil they found.

That's the only one I've heard of.
You’re probably thinking of the lobe-finned lungfish. The lungfish is an example of a species that morphed its way between two mediums, land and sea. However, I’ve heard of another, similar, fish that is now believed to be the first fish to do this. I’ve forgotten the name.

The coelacanth is another lobe-finned fish. Both the lungfish and the coelacanth are alive today. I think the coelacanth had importance in other ways besides the lobed fins. They have a hollow spine. Coelacanth means hollow spine. I have a show taped somewhere where they talk about the significance of the spine, etc. I’ve forgotten much of what they talked about.

I believe people thought they’d see coelacanths using their fins to walk around on the bottom of the sea floor, but when you think about it, why do that when you can easily swim around. That would be like using a boat propeller to drive around on land.

But what I do remember that was significant was the coelacanth moves its fins in an opposing why as if to balance like animals do. Like when a person walks, they swing one leg forwards and at the same time, they swing their opposite arm backwards for balance.
 
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QUALTHWAR said:
You’re probably thinking of the lobe-finned lungfish. The lungfish is an example of a species that morphed its way between two mediums, land and sea. However, I’ve heard of another, similar, fish that is now believed to be the first fish to do this. I’ve forgotten the name.

Perhaps Mudskippers?

Well whaddya know, missing links all over the shop.
 
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Mister_Prophet said:
There are. Forgot name, but these fish can breathe in water and leave the surface to crawl around on sort of fin-appendages for some time. However, I think they are classified as true amphibians and nearly every scientific study on them that I have read don't classifiy them or identify them as missing links or living missing links. Think of them as frogs without digits I guess. I forgot the reasons they gave but it isn't the same situation as with this new fish fossil they found.

That's the only one I've heard of.


QUALTHWAR said:
You’re probably thinking of the lobe-finned lungfish. The lungfish is an example of a species that morphed its way between two mediums, land and sea. However, I’ve heard of another, similar, fish that is now believed to be the first fish to do this. I’ve forgotten the name.

Mister_Prophet said:
Indeed, it was the lungfish.

Nachimir said:
Perhaps Mudskippers?

Well whaddya know, missing links all over the shop.

QUALTHWAR said:
i don't think that was it. I'll have to locate my recording. They talk about it on that.

I’m watching the show now that talked about Coelacanths and it was the lungfish they were talking about. I thought there was another one, but it the lungfish. Here is basically what they said:

Based on new DNA evidence, the lungfish is thought to be a closer ancestor to tetrapods. We are tetrapods.
 

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The show was on Nova. It wasn’t on recently, I just discovered where I had the taped show. It talks about the woman who discovered the coelacanth on a fishing boat and thought it was a special fish. She drew a picture of it and sent it to a fellow who knew a lot about fish. The woman was 30 when she found the fish, but she was 93 when they interviewed her for the show.

Since that fish was supposed to have died out when the dinosaurs did, they thought it might have lain in preservative ooze for eons and it was just a well preserved fossil. However, the fishermen assured them the fish snapped at them when it was caught.

The lady had to have the thing stuffed, but they wanted a live specimen. Then they posted a large reward for the fish in a place where villagers claimed to know what it was because they would catch one now and then. Somebody finally caught one and then others followed. They have quite a few specimens now.

They discovered that there were actually 2 different species of the coelacanth, depending on what country they were caught off of. They think something happened to separate coelacanths years ago and they developed differently because of this isolation and their surroundings.
 
QUALTHWAR said:
They discovered that there were actually 2 different species of the coelacanth, depending on what country they were caught off of. They think something happened to separate coelacanths years ago and they developed differently because of this isolation and their surroundings.

Like Llamas and Camels. I admit I only know the jist of the Coelacanth thing, but it is rather interesting.