Scientists Call Fish Fossil the 'Missing Link'

[Ironblayde]

An interesting article indeed, though this one bit in particular seems to be getting all the attention in this thread:

...the fossils are widely seen by scientists as a powerful rebuttal to religious creationists, who hold a literal biblical view on the origins and development of life.

It would be a powerful rebuttal, if all the yammering (I won't dignify it with the term "debate") about evolution vs. creationism was confined to the realm of reason. But it isn't. The creationist position comes down to faith in the end, so as far as most of its adherents are concerned, no amount of evidence against it is going to make a bit of difference. But hey! Maybe this thread will settle things once and for all.

Here's an article on the same topic from BBC that doesn't require registration if anyone would like to read it: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4879672.stm

 

[Cat Fuzz]

The creationist position comes down to faith in the end, so as far as most of its adherents are concerned, no amount of evidence against it is going to make a bit of difference.

....and the evolutionists position isn't based on faith........[/sarcasm]

 

[Twrecks]

....and the evolutionists position isn't based on faith........[/sarcasm]

You bait well Tom Sawyer.

 

[ReD_Fist]

Tell ya, it is just another way out for them to not face the facts that yes mabye there is somthing bigger and badder and smarter than themselves.
Or any excuse to not see themselvs as somthing SOME OTHER unexplainable power wich made them.

Wich is fine accept they don't know for sure there is an eternity,and I say the religious side can't make you stop smoking,being extra fat or drug addict or whatever befalls them because the religious folks are human so they don't really know either.

Then because someone says "hey there is a God" doesn't mean they are forcing them to believe.BUT you can be damn sure the non religious side will pound the pavement to be able to say" see haha I told you there is no god".

Know why? because they know the truth that they may be under gods care and can't stand the idea of being bamboozled or think they are tricked into actualy beliving somthing is above them in all ways.

But evolving seems like a rudemntory human study of "humans", being they don't consider a creator.

 

[GMotha]

Then because someone says "hey there is a God" doesn't mean they are forcing them to believe.BUT you can be damn sure the non religious side will pound the pavement to be able to say" see haha I told you there is no god".

As if the religious side isn't orbiting around anything sientific, waiting for something that contradicts the bible. When they think "oh God, this just might possibly suggest that God doens't excist", they'll just dive into it like starving vultures.

Ok, this sounds stupid, but then again: your post did too. Why do you get worked up about this anyway? You said it was no proof at all, so why would that be threatening?
If you're so secure about your belief, why would such a article even remotely threaten your belief? If you think it's rubbish, why would you care?

 

[ReD_Fist]

Care? , Because I say evolution is completly illogical and is based on going (against god), ware as personaly it is somthing wich DOES sound so stupid.

read My first comment.last sentence.

 

[GoAt]

the pope at one point (forgot which one) said that evolution makes the most sense. (forgot what he said after that)

the orriginal poster was NOT trying to say "ZOMG!!! SEE!!! YOU RELIGIOUS DUMBASSES ARE WRONG!!!11@"
it was however, a religious dumbass that started the argument.

and i have noticed this alot, when i new discovery is made, the zelots all come out of the woodwork and start ranting about how it was false and made up and how god will smite them, and if they dont convert they will burn in hell, and if.......

 

[oosyxxx]

Jesus built my hotrod.

 

[Ironblayde]

....and the evolutionists position isn't based on faith........[/sarcasm]

Ah, it's good to see that unthinkably colossal ignorance is still alive and well in the world.

 

[ReD_Fist]

Goat"the orriginal poster was NOT trying to say "ZOMG!!! SEE!!! YOU RELIGIOUS DUMBASSES ARE WRONG!!!11@"
it was however, a religious dumbass that started the argument."

And how many times you EVER read here promoting religion,especialy a thread title.Who's agenda "theory" is not either for
gay righs
abortion
athiest
evolution

If I acted the same way as non believers a thread would read

GOTO CHURCH OR GOTO HELL !!!

No ! because people who believe in god know it's up to yourselves not a "religion".Unlike the aragent know it all mentality wich say gays have a dna difference and, my rights blah blah blah.

The only thing wich needs convincing are those who rely on selfesh human selfeshness, and evolution doesn't consider a god but the believers are supposed to give you the rights to believe what ever you want.
And never say anything, sure no creation taught in schools, but oh no, you must teach evolution.

 

[Twrecks]

The duck billed platypus was considered a sham creature stitched together by Darwinian monkey trotter taxidermist. Guess there are still flat landers that still believe the NASA moon missions are Hollywood fabrications. Whatever the case, getting a warm fuzzy by believing in some higher power is protecting you and guiding the ignorant is a comfort much like oxygen deprivation. I prefer to have knowledge be power over blind control. Take tha bag off your heads and smell the dead fish

 

[Frostblood]

The eternal evoloution debate : proof that Darwin was wrong about life progressing over time.

 

[ReD_Fist]

Twrecks"I prefer to have knowledge be power over blind control.

Back to my house comment.
You actually think you have the power to think the house desighner didn't want to add that extra light in a wall?

All because you live in that house doesn't give you the "knowledge" to know.

 

[Mister_Prophet]

....and the evolutionists position isn't based on faith........[/sarcasm]

No. It's primarily based on evidence.

Excuse me? The idea that the entire universe just began to exist and randomly, in the right places, created life from itself without cause is pretty "poofing out of thin air" to me.

And an invisible man pulling the universe out of his pocket in six days is any better? C'mon.

This faith debate is pointless.

 

[ReD_Fist]

"This faith debate is pointless."

True, so goto church.

 

[Mister_Prophet]

True, so goto church.

I did once, but the priest tried to grab my junk.

 

[Twrecks]

You actually think you have the power to think the house desighner didn't want to add that extra light in a wall?

All because you live in that house doesn't give you the "knowledge" to know.

Actually I have the knowledge there was no outlet, and the power to add one. I did not pray for it, though I swore a few times installing it

 

[GMotha]

Care? , Because I say evolution is completly illogical and is based on going (against god), ware as personaly it is somthing wich DOES sound so stupid.

read My first comment.last sentence.

But you still get worked up about it. It won't stop evolutionists from spreading their idea's^^

 

[madmoo]

shooting them may shut them up.
woo pycotic terorist is coming out again. ohh well the shotguns in the couberd. "hay ma come here" "bang! bang! bang! thud!"
"stob shouting bang at me and pointing that stick at me!"

 

[GMotha]

shooting them may shut them up.
woo pycotic terorist is coming out again. ohh well the shotguns in the couberd. "hay ma come here" "bang! bang! bang! thud!"
"stob shouting bang at me and pointing that stick at me!"

Yes.
That's certainly an option.