I never understood how someone could get anything out of a game by cheating.....there is no challenge to it.
Originally posted by SoSilencer
I think many people in this thread need a serious reality check. I'll try to make this as clear as possible.
1: People cheat playing infiltration online.
2: You cannot stop cheaters.
3: CSHP does not stop aimbots.
Now let me explain. People have been cheating in online INF matches since day 1. People still cheat now. Anyone who denies this is either a cheater themselves or has no knowledge of such things and refuses to believe something even if they see it for themselves. People will ALWAYS cheat. Some people replied as if Beppo is going to stop all cheating. It will not happen. I'm sure he's a very good coder but from his own post he seems to know little about how cheats work (no offense). Besides, I highly doubt he would be the one to solve the problem if epic and id can't.
At best cheaters could be stopped for a few days to a week. After that they will simply find a new program, a new way. It takes far less time to make a cheat than it does to eliminate one. They will not go away, don't ever think they will. Cheaters are here to stay and people need to accept this.
Finally, programs like CSHP do virtually nothing. I remember the day they released version 4 (or whatever it is as they release far too many versions). Within an hour I was on a server with a cheater. Nobody believed that he was cheating, they were all like "this server is cshp4 he can't be cheating!" I shut down UT, changed ini files, reconnected to the server, then proceeded to get headshot after headshot for a few minutes. All the people talking about how CSHP prevented cheating quickly shut up.
Some people need to realise that aimbots exist, people use them in INF, they work online, and there isn't anything that can be done to safeguard against them. You can slow them down, you can make it more difficult, but you CAN'T stop them.
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Here is a prime example of why cheating will never be stopped in INF. A cheater finds out that Beppo has somehow done the impossible and defeated all client side hacks. He sets up his old machine as and connects to the internet through that. This machine doesn't just relay his packets though, it actually looks at what is happening in the game. It interprets the packets and notices you just fired, but you will miss because your aim is off. It changes the packets and sends the modified packets to the server. It's an aimbot, but it's not on his machine. The machine he is playing on has no cheats, no extra programs, all his game files are 100% correct in every way. Now tell me how your going to stop him. What are you going to do? Checking the game files and such will do nothing because there is nothing wrong with his game or any of his files. Everything on his machine is perfectly 'legal' as far as the game is concerned. You could ban everybody that routes their internet like this but this would serve only to ban thousands of fair and honest players for every cheater there is and even if you did do this, the cheaters would simply hide their router and get around it. If your not careful your 'fix' will cause far more harm to the community than the cheater ever would have.
None of this is hard to do if you know what your doing. Luckily most people don't know what they are doing but at the same time this general lack of knowledge means many people simply refuse to believe that cheating takes place. Face it, cheaters are here and they are here to stay. Don't blindly believe that programs like CSHP or minor adjustments by Beppo are going to stop it, cus it won't. BTW, I'll answer the question before I'm asked:
No, I don't.