Religious/Evolutionary Debate Thread

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Evil_Cope

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Nachimir said:
"Anarchist" and "Bitch"? ;)



I quite like this take on it.

Sadly, this was also written by a monkey, and he falls into the same monkey traps that he is describing.
Animals are always happy? never hate? :lol:
Silly monkey. :)
 

QUALTHWAR

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Eyuva 'S' NRG said:
So did anyone figure out the truth yet? Remember kiddies, there can only be one truth.
Old habits die hard, my friend. As time goes by, I believe that mankind will amass more and more evidence for evolution, but I think there is strong evidence now. However, even with overwhelming evidence, I think there will always be some people who refuse to give up on their archaic notions of religion.

Religion comforts people. People are afraid of death and religion tells them that they don’t really die. It tells them that there’s something greater looking out for them. It tells people they can be forgiven for all the crap they’ve done wrong. People don’t want to let go of that. It’s like a frightened child holding onto its mother.

The bible was written by people; this is a fact that few will deny. People have found chapters that were written for the bible, but weren’t included. Now if the bible is supposed to be the word of god, leaving stuff out presents a problem. Somewhere along the line, somebody (man) decided that some chapters were inspired by god, and others weren’t. How does one make that distinction? You have people who aren’t perfect censoring what gets included in the bible. Sort of leads to controversy, doesn’t it?

Perhaps if we live for millions of years and become more intelligent, we will grow to dismiss religion, or at least the bible. We’ll understand the real meaning of the tales in the bible. The notions of a god can be separated from the bible. If your idea of god is maybe the most powerful being in the universe, then by definition, there’s probably a god. But that god isn’t something that created the universe, but evolved within it. Then you have to define your notions of “powerful” and that idea will be different for everyone.

So nothing is resolved and nothing will be resolved anytime soon. It’s all a matter of how deep you want to go into the rabbit hole.
 

Eyuva 'S' NRG

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I think this is one of those issues that isn't worth taking seriously. It's better to live your life and enjoy it, than deal with semantics like this.

But evolution... Evolution is a form of change; in a nut shell. If people think, species, planets, and the universe are going to remain static or the same for a period of millions of years, they are just wrong. Heck, even us human beings have a much higher average height today, than we did a few hundred years ago.

The passing of time is evidence that the universe isn't being micromanaged.
 

ReD_Fist

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The only reason he talks like that is because he is insecure.I am glad I don't claim to know it all, but rationlising god out of the picture shows true adolesent ideas they HAVE to prove.
I have said time and again in here they need proof, believers like me don't need the proof because the whole world all races all counties all believe they are not the arrogent selfish end all, say all.

"Look at me I am so smart soooo smart" how could anyone one believe in somthing like a god.Seems to me the bible depicts the devil of getting this attitude out long before any science or whatever he claims or thinks.
 
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QUALTHWAR

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Eyuva 'S' NRG said:
I think this is one of those issues that isn't worth taking seriously. It's better to live your life and enjoy it, than deal with semantics like this.

But evolution... Evolution is a form of change; in a nut shell. If people think, species, planets, and the universe are going to remain static or the same for a period of millions of years, they are just wrong. Heck, even us human beings have a much higher average height today, than we did a few hundred years ago.

The passing of time is evidence that the universe isn't being micromanaged.
Oh but people “do” take the matter seriously. Trying to tell them to lose religion is like trying to tell them to lose their mommy. In fact, people get quick-tempered when you disagree with their religious beliefs, which is one reason why people say they don’t want to discuss religion or politics. People are so polarized that they lash out on the matter.

I think it’s because most have no ammunition to fight back and they know it. They know that all they have is a belief that can’t be proven, and they get upset so people will leave them alone. That’s most people. Then there are others who feel as though they have ammunition, and they are less likely to lash out, at least for awhile. But many of these people will only refer you to web sites or whatnot that debunk evolution.

The problem here is that these sites give misleading information. For example, one of the things they claim is that if the world was really over 4 billion years old, that we should have far more hydrogen in the atmosphere. But these people aren’t scientists, or are bad scientists, and don’t realize that hydrogen is so light that gravity can’t hold it to the atmosphere and it escapes out into space. But the average person who is religious doesn’t bother to question these bogus comments.
 
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Frostblood

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ReD_Fist said:
"Look at me I am so smart soooo smart" how could anyone one believe in somthing like a god.Seems to me the bible depicts the devil of getting this attitude out long before any science or whatever he claims or thinks.

Where in the Bible? Are you sure you're not thinking of Paradise Lost?
 

Nachimir

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It's a mighty short list Deathbliss has there. I don't think he's putting enough effort into his research. In fact, I think his heart might not be in it.

Also:

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