Phatazz..... well i did not buy ut2004 to play xmp i have played the unreal series since Unreal.bout 6 years now so i had 2004 on day one but alas it is just not Ut LOL same argument i guess .....we will wait and see no problem you do the spin if i win and i will sit hows that? BTW i have played alot of the new xmp but as i have stated before without crosshairs and a working up close weapon (for like generators in sunset beach) and i also rely alot on smoke nades ,without these tools the game as it is now is unplayable.now i know it is my opinion.but it is my story and i am sticking to it.