Physics!!!!

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Xipher

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Kriegs-Maschine said:
Dunno if any of you have noticed, but in UT2004, there is exactly almost no physic at all, beside the wheels of the hellbender, there is totaly nothing else. Do you remember last time you shoot an object in the map and it would move randomly (not just in 1 scripted direction), I'm sure that no cause there aren't any.
The only thing that we can roughly call Physic in UT2004 is the "Ragdoll" which is when you die...

I think up to now, the only game which I saw some real physic, is Half-Life 2.

The thing is very few people actually used Karma objects in UT2004, they were avalible, but I guess people thought they were to difficult to work with. Plus, to many physics intesive objects can cause problems when having to populate the change to every one in the area durring network play. That, and it has to be done server side, unlike ragdoll which is completely done client side, and can even be turned off.
 

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NeoNite said:
Pineconeboy 0_° It's been a while!
How are you?

Good. Leaving for peace corps in Honduras in a couple weeks. This is my last gasp on computer for awhile, ehehe. :p
 

NeoNite

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So, I take it you've found your destiny ;O) ?

Well, I wish you the best of luck in life ^_^
I can't come up with anything else right now, but I'll get back to you.. if possible.
;O)
 

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NeoNite said:
So, I take it you've found your destiny ;O) ?

Nah, I'm still working on that. Hopefully it involves a hot latina chick or peace corps earth bunny. ;)
 

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Not a hundred percent sure, but I'm pretty sure it would be possible. If you watch the new video circulating around of GoW, you'd see some pant's ruining destruction when the big bad ass guy pops out.
 

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I hope so, well at least the Tank in Onslaught will have destructable threats around it.

But im sure not everything will be destructable as it would modify the "gameplay" by changing the map... so don't expect much in DM, where I would mostly see those kind of destruction things... would be in Onslaught and Conquest. At least if shooting a rocket, flak ball or tank shell at the ground would make a good hole, it would be nice.
 

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Slainchild said:
Yes indeed! :D

No gravity gun though. ;)
if there is no gravity gun in the original game, I'm gonna mod one in with my mad modelling skillz. That is, provided I learn to code. :p
I love physics. Everyone here needs to download the hl2 demo and mess around with the physics in the first level. The button to pick up things is e.
 

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dude2425 said:
If you watch the new video circulating around of GoW, you'd see some pant's ruining destruction when the big bad ass guy pops out.

Hehehe :D I've spend too much time in OT, I'm afraid.
 
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Kriegs-Maschine said:
I think up to now, the only game which I saw some real physic, is Half-Life 2.

Psi Ops: Mindgate Conspiracy had some damn good physics! The game almost revolved around the physics engine (havok).

I hope the next UT has ragdolls that can interact with other ragdolls. That would be fun to see :).
 

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Psi Ops: Mindgate Conspiracy had some damn good physics! The game almost revolved around the physics engine (havok).

I hope the next UT has ragdolls that can interact with other ragdolls. That would be fun to see :).

Oh, I sure as hell wouldn't mind a certain type of interracting :mwink:

Between female and female ragdolls that is!
 

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I hope the next UT has ragdolls that can interact with other ragdolls. That would be fun to see :).

I'd like to see less bandwidth used instead of an element irrelevant for gameplay like interacting ragdolls, no matter how network-optimzed the NovadeX PE might be...
 

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That is actually a very interesting point. Would a server see significant CPU load decreases if it had a PPU on it? How about running multiple servers on one box?

I'm guessing, as JaFO said, it will be used primarily for non-gameplay-affecting aspects such as ragdoll deaths etc., which can be simulated clientside without the need for any extra network traffic.
 

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Crowze said:
That is actually a very interesting point. Would a server see significant CPU load decreases if it had a PPU on it? How about running multiple servers on one box?

Yeah, that's what I want to know as well... or put another way, will you pretty much have to install a PPU in order to have a decent server this time out?

I'm guessing, as JaFO said, it will be used primarily for non-gameplay-affecting aspects such as ragdoll deaths etc., which can be simulated clientside without the need for any extra network traffic.

From what I've gotten from the rumor mill and reading Agaiea's hype- intensive site, Novodex is designed to take over gameplay- affecting elements like player collision and hit detection. Which would make sense, I guess, if you're really looking to lighten the load on the CPU.

How it all affects bandwidth usage I'm not sure.

Last I really heard about all this stuff was a couple of months ago. We had a big flamewar about it on INA :lol: and then no more was said of the matter. I'm still somewhat suspicious of the whole thing, but I guess we'll see what's what in about six months' time...
 

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I would like to see some sort of map/mod where you can dig trough walls, earth and make constructions of fragments from destroyed walls! Like booming up a wall, pick the rocks and stuff, pile them up, and then use them as a barracade! And the more heavy they are, the more powerfull weapons would they take, to be blown up/moved! Or maybe have a grap gun like in HL2! Would be cool to be able to blow some trees down, and then make a dam, blocking the water in a river! As far as I understanded from previous movies/texts and stuff, it looked like water was possible, like you can put into a cup! Am I right about that? Cause if that is true, then I am truely excited :D! It is gonna be so cool, with unlimitted possibelities of psychic interaction! Anyway, I will still be excited!

Psychichs ftw!