So, you hate this one game in particular. And SOF][ is one of the many games which run on the Q3 engine, which imho doesn't suck one bit.
Physics!!!!
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Kantham said:
Great, now what does that have to do with the idea of adding additional hitboxes to the playermodels?
Personally, I wouldn't mind being able to blow people's limbs off, but it should only occur when dealing the last blow. I'd hate to have my left leg blown off during a fight and I'd then have to jump around like a freaking pogo stick until someone put me out of my misery.
quake 3 didn't need any more geometry or any nonsense like that, look what happened to levels of ut2k3 when they became overpopulated by obtrusive meshes which imho f#cked up the gameplay, and now look how epic are doing the maps for envy using basic geometric building block to build the level first before detail, so the gameplay is tip top,
that how they mostly had to do it ut99--there not one map from 2kx i could say was better than a map in ut99
that how they mostly had to do it ut99--there not one map from 2kx i could say was better than a map in ut99
Kantham said:
Ok, that didn't make sense.. at all.
I think the first Q3 screenshots I've seen were released in january 1999.
That's been a while, hasn't it?
So, basically, the q3 engine is already dated. Still quite versatile.
Look at the amount of years the q3 engine was used/licensed for games.
F.E. Alice in 2001 already had more complex geometry than quake3 had. The engine did evolve quite a bit.
There's no way you can compare the q3 engine to the later(latest) versions of the unreal engine. That's a whole new ballgame, so to speak.
As far as detail, geometry.. I have to be honest, and admit q3 had more of this than ut had.
And yes, I've also played quake/3 before UT.
I ended up liking Quake3 over UT, than vice versa and finally .. finally I realised they were both excellent games, on excellent engines.
Imho.
It's true, that the unreal engine is more versatile/tweakable (?) than the Quake3 engine.
But, if you look at some of the custom levels for Quake3, you'd be surprised to see how much more detail they tend to have than the retail ones.
"Lonely planet", for example. Released in early 2000. Had a lot more detail than any retail level, iirc.
There's a lot more. Browse the levelord site, on pq to find more.
Edit: Oh ****, just realised the forum name has been changed to "unreal tournament 2007"...
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exactly , any way unreal engine was initially designed to build an intricate singleplayer
world for unreal whereas the q3 engine was specifically for multiplayer maps that where simple and all about multiplayer gameplay you could get away with less details for this purpose
indeed that did sound like mario, not when i initially thought it up though, but it would be a kickass move to pull off in anyway!
world for unreal whereas the q3 engine was specifically for multiplayer maps that where simple and all about multiplayer gameplay you could get away with less details for this purpose
indeed that did sound like mario, not when i initially thought it up though, but it would be a kickass move to pull off in anyway!
A bit late in my reply - but if the movies I saw weren't leaked, why didn't they release a propper avi.
Or did they reckon the avi looked better filmed with a digital camera with a tinge of green, from the back of an auditorium; and that the backs of heads just added that little something to the ambience.
But perhaps it's all a cunning plan. Perhaps instead of a weapons bar, they can have sillouetes of heads that change slightly according to which weapons you pick up.
Or did they reckon the avi looked better filmed with a digital camera with a tinge of green, from the back of an auditorium; and that the backs of heads just added that little something to the ambience.
But perhaps it's all a cunning plan. Perhaps instead of a weapons bar, they can have sillouetes of heads that change slightly according to which weapons you pick up.
iron12 said:
I want to see them actually collide with the vehicle. would be too cool to see guys rolling off your hood.
Dark Pulse
Dolla, Dolla. Holla, Holla.
i just hope epic did a lot more to the player control and physics related to it... after all, i'd like to see them include some stuff to make it to where modders can change a lot more about each pawn... like having a specialized modifier volumes for each pawn/controller.
Dunno if any of you have noticed, but in UT2004, there is exactly almost no physic at all, beside the wheels of the hellbender, there is totaly nothing else. Do you remember last time you shoot an object in the map and it would move randomly (not just in 1 scripted direction), I'm sure that no cause there aren't any.
The only thing that we can roughly call Physic in UT2004 is the "Ragdoll" which is when you die...
I think up to now, the only game which I saw some real physic, is Half-Life 2.
The only thing that we can roughly call Physic in UT2004 is the "Ragdoll" which is when you die...
I think up to now, the only game which I saw some real physic, is Half-Life 2.