Personality test...

[Frostblood]

yeah. thats the spirit. charity begins at home. how can you flit off money to perfect strangers when you have friends and family who could use it too?

I disagree, but that would be nice. There are other people who need it far more, and charitable donations are not just to stave off guilt...they are the only thing which lets charitys work at all, and in many parts of the world charitys are the only thing providing food/medical supplies at all. Of course, many people donate only to make themselves feel good and many charitys spend more on admin than actually doing anything, but that doesnt mean the whole system is bad.

 

[Claw]

Originally posted by Frostblood
yeah. thats the spirit. charity begins at home. how can you flit off money to perfect strangers when you have friends and family who could use it too?

I disagree, but that would be nice. There are other people who need it far more, and charitable donations are not just to stave off guilt...they are the only thing which lets charitys work at all, and in many parts of the world charitys are the only thing providing food/medical supplies at all. Of course, many people donate only to make themselves feel good and many charitys spend more on admin than actually doing anything, but that doesnt mean the whole system is bad.

Who said the "system" is bad? Dai2 just pointed out that most people don't care very much. They donate a bit, just so much they don't feel it much. It's understandable for "normal ppl" who need over 95% of their money/wealth for a living.
Of course not everyone's like this. There are exceptions. Only not many. And I ain't gonna respect a celebrity for donating 1 million if I know that person could donate 10 times that amount and still wouldn't feel it.
It's a problem of our society. A rich person horting huge amounts of money shouldn't get respect for it. But they do. Capitalism...

 

[BangOut]

What does "horting" mean?

 

[Frostblood]

And I ain't gonna respect a celebrity for donating 1 million if I know that person could donate 10 times that amount and still wouldn't feel it.
It's a problem of our society. A rich person horting huge amounts of money shouldn't get respect for it. But they do. Capitalism...

Of course. This really annoys me...Britney spears recently publicized her decision to give $1 from each of her concert tickets to the victims of the WTC attacks. Sounds good, until you realise that each of the tickets costs about $50 and she is already a multimillionaire, thanks to here mulitmillion pound ad campaigns naturally and the fact that she is yet another part of the rampant commercialization of music.
Real bands give real money : the Smashing Pumpkins gave there whole profits from tours for 1 year, Black Sabbath donated all their profits from one album...yet they didnt go and shout about it.

The sad fact is that celebritys get more respect, attention, money and power than any doctor, scientist, aid worker or campaigner, and yet are no more talented, determined or skilled, they just happen to be good at kicking a ball or looking pretty instead of saving a life or contributing to the advancement of science. David Beckham is payed £50,000 a week. Each of the members of hear'say, who are utterly talentless, got £1million in a year. A senior doctor in britain would get £70,000 a year. In Russia one doctor was payed in manure because of funding shortages.

 

[BangOut]

Originally posted by Frostblood
The sad fact is that celebritys get more respect, attention

I disagree... I think everyone is clearly aware that celebrities have more money than they need and I know of no one who respects them more than anyone working in the trenches.

Attention? Sure they get the attention... Britney can sing for 10 minutes, raise a few thousand dollars which helps fund a dozen aid workers until she donates again. So, she is doing what she does best to help the situation rather than doing actual aid work (there's a similar term in economics for this that I can't remember right now). There's a reason celebrities stand there and look pretty... it's a trickle down effect.

But I don't think anyone is mistaking the promotional work or donations for the difficult jobs that others are doing.

 

[Frostblood]

Bangout : true, but britney takes in millions from each tour, and donates perhaps a few thousand...she's given a tiny amount of what she could have. Yes, she has done a lot of good but she could have done so much more...think of it in the sense that she kept several thousand times the amount she gave away to herself.

As for respect, noone in their right mind would respect them but yet either they are respected or the media are betting a huge amount of money on the fact that they are and still getting it back : all the tabloids are full of celebrity gossip, most of the best selling teenage magazines are based around it...there are millions of celebrity fansites all singing their praises. And anyway, at the end of the day its the money that they care about, and they get all they could need.

 

[Twrecks]

Originally posted by lucifix
CHEAP LIQUOR AND EVEN CHEAPER HOOKERS........

That'd be my choice!

 

[Frostblood]

But if you were a millionaire you could afford to pay for quality...

 

[BangOut]

Originally posted by Frostblood
Bangout : true, but britney takes in millions from each tour, and donates perhaps a few thousand...she's given a tiny amount of what she could have. Yes, she has done a lot of good but she could have done so much more...think of it in the sense that she kept several thousand times the amount she gave away to herself./B]

You already said that and I didn't say I disagreed.

Originally posted by Frostblood
As for respect, noone in their right mind would respect them but yet either they are respected or the media are betting a huge amount of money on the fact that they are and still getting it back : all the tabloids are full of celebrity gossip, most of the best selling teenage magazines are based around it...there are millions of celebrity fansites all singing their praises. And anyway, at the end of the day its the money that they care about, and they get all they could need.

Those magazines don't respect celebrities, we don't respect celebrities, no one really does... BUT... they are interesting. They are given attention because they are INTERESTING and on occassion entertaining.

Interesting = $, Respect = admiration != $

No one is going to make money off of a magazine with articles like "AIDS Workers All-Starz: this doctor medicated 300 in one day!!!" or "WTC Fashion: Look at this rugged firefighter and all of his buddies wearing the same sexy getup!"

 

[Twrecks]

It's not like I don't have standars, just the diff between a $200 hooker and a $15000 hooker is $14800.
I gotta remember half that mill went to my wife after I bagged my first ho. Have to economize now
Prolly why I'll never be rich, because of that whole drunk letch thing I'd become.

 

[AMmayhem]

It depends. How much is £1 million??? In U.S. dollars.

 

[BangOut]

about $1.5 milliom

 

[Frostblood]

Those magazines don't respect celebrities, we don't respect celebrities, no one really does... BUT... they are interesting. They are given attention because they are INTERESTING and on occassion entertaining.

Interesting = $, Respect = admiration != $

No one is going to make money off of a magazine with articles like "AIDS Workers All-Starz: this doctor medicated 300 in one day!!!" or "WTC Fashion: Look at this rugged firefighter and all of his buddies wearing the same sexy getup!"

But are they really interesting? "REVALATION OF A HOLLYWOOD HOOKER : Bruce Willis is gay". So what? Does it really matter? Admittadly, it does have a certain weird attraction, but when you look at it, celebrity gossip and news is completely pointless. "Another 35,000 people you don't know die, just like yesterday" doesnt have the same ring to it. The media of course know this, but it sells papers so they put it in.

I do think that celebs get respect from many people however, especially children. This is not just stupid, its damaging : look at anorexia...people see celebritys and models and think "I'll be more beutiful if i look like them". They may not respect their personalitys but they admire their looks.

 

[BangOut]

Each celebrity has a feature or two to admire... we all admire celebrities for certain things. I admire Ron Jeremy for his legendary occupation, but I don't really respect him. I admire Britney's looks, but I'd never want them

I will concede that kids respect celebrities, but they don't have a grasp on real life yet.

Bruce Willis is gay?

And personally, I don't find celebrities interesting for the most part... that's why I watch the news and not MTV. I can't say the same for my female friends though.

 

[SpiritWalker]

Originally posted by Dai2
who cares?

really? who really gives a damn? All the donations and whatever are mostly token actions to help easy people's conscience

Well you twit.. I bet YOU would care if you and/or yours needed help.. and would hope for a few token actions

I for one was very grateful for the help that was given my family when I was a kid...
If you had a child that was dying.. I bet you would be in tears when/if the "Make a Wish Foundation" came calling..

If some blue-haired lady wants to give some of her $$$ to help some faceless child living in poverty..
Or some movie star that makes 10 mil. a film give money to help the families of the NY/DC tradgies..
Or me giving my 3 dollars in canned dog food to the NCARL..

It dosen't matter the "whys" people have for helping others.. just as long as those that CAN.. DO..

Now tell me "Mr. really dumbass person that gets his name from a Japanese production company of really bad films." would YOU care why someone was putting .50 in your cup.. if you were homeless?

think about it.

 

[SpiritWalker]

Originally posted by Snarf



Agreed

you as well you loser!

 

[SpiritWalker]

Originally posted by Rukee
I`d LOVE to be able to go to each of my family`s houses and say"Lay all you debts on the kitchin table including morgages and everything" and write then a check on the spot!!

That would be awsome!! It would be like Christmas morning, seeing the faces..

/me musses Da Ruks hair.. good karma to you man..

 

[SpiritWalker]

Originally posted by mister_cope


yeah. thats the spirit. charity begins at home. how can you flit off money to perfect strangers when you have friends and family who could use it too?

Yeah.. I woulod love to help everyone.. but me and mine do have to come first..

 

[Skorch]

I'd buy some land, a cozy bunker, and start working on my plan for world domination...

...And I've used English Pounds, their monopoly money is very attractive...

 

[SpiritWalker]

Originally posted by Claw


And I ain't gonna respect a celebrity for donating 1 million if I know that person could donate 10 times that amount and still wouldn't feel it.
It's a problem of our society. A rich person horting huge amounts of money shouldn't get respect for it. But they do. Capitalism...

I agree with you.. but something to point out.. If Gates/Clooney/Jordan.. whomever.. that only gave 1mil... DIDN'T
then where would the people that needed it be..?