Those maps are pretty good, definately not a peice of work to laugh at... good work keep it up 
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,Is there a mod in need of a mapper?
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Look, some of us are genuinely trying to help. If you can't take honest criticism, don't post any of your work.
1) Don't post editor screenshots, they simply don't look good. Non-mappers will wonder what all the crap is that's cluttering up the screen, and it will detract from the shot. Go in-game and type togglescreenshotmode into the console (~ key) to get rid of the HUD, then take screenshots with F9. They'll appear in your UT2004/Screenshots folder.
2) If you can't grab your audience with 2 or 3 screenshots, you're not going to do it with a dozen. Take a few shots of the most interesting areas, not 20 shots of every nook and cranny.
Super-fun-happy-time comments aren't going to help you get better as a mapper, the ones that are pointing out problems will. Don't take them personally. Use them to improve your work.
1) Don't post editor screenshots, they simply don't look good. Non-mappers will wonder what all the crap is that's cluttering up the screen, and it will detract from the shot. Go in-game and type togglescreenshotmode into the console (~ key) to get rid of the HUD, then take screenshots with F9. They'll appear in your UT2004/Screenshots folder.
2) If you can't grab your audience with 2 or 3 screenshots, you're not going to do it with a dozen. Take a few shots of the most interesting areas, not 20 shots of every nook and cranny.
Super-fun-happy-time comments aren't going to help you get better as a mapper, the ones that are pointing out problems will. Don't take them personally. Use them to improve your work.
I'd like to add one suggestion:
Make your screenshots about 800x600 or smaller for us dial-up dorks.
Make your screenshots about 800x600 or smaller for us dial-up dorks.
Well, angle_mapper has good points. Here's a random point that doesn't have to do with this really, when other people play mods if it's fun they're going to like it, most of the time it's only the game designers who say it sucks because your map has errors... if you put those maps in mods or upload them places a lot of people will like them man.
Is that zone lit? Sorry, the lighting looks horrible. No shadows, no contrast, nothing interesting to draw the eye.
Angel_Mapper said:
Yeah, think of how much cooler it would look with some kind of brooding nighttime lighting. Of course you might get people complaining about darkness and brightskins if you put lighting in it, because pro players don't play with shadows and strategic lighting hurr.
Here's a few observations on your last batch of screenies. Take them in the spirit they are intended.
1. Lighting. There doesn't appear to be any.
2. The brick texture on the houses could be better. It's repetitive and a little too "red".
3. The wood texture (I think it's wood) on the house in the 2nd pic looks totally stretched.
4. Scaling is way off on a few of the meshes.
a. The door on the house in the 2nd pic is twice as high as the cars.
b. And that's one honkin big fire hydrant.
c. The road is barely one lane wide.
d. The traffic light is too short.
5. Some wierdnesses in layout:
a. There's a strange curb on the road. Yeah, I know roads have curbs, but those are usually there because the road is below the grade of the sidewalks and terrain around them.
b. Why is there a tractor trailer in the middle of this suburb?
That's just a few things that immediately come to mind. Hope it helps.
1. Lighting. There doesn't appear to be any.
2. The brick texture on the houses could be better. It's repetitive and a little too "red".
3. The wood texture (I think it's wood) on the house in the 2nd pic looks totally stretched.
4. Scaling is way off on a few of the meshes.
a. The door on the house in the 2nd pic is twice as high as the cars.
b. And that's one honkin big fire hydrant.
c. The road is barely one lane wide.
d. The traffic light is too short.
5. Some wierdnesses in layout:
a. There's a strange curb on the road. Yeah, I know roads have curbs, but those are usually there because the road is below the grade of the sidewalks and terrain around them.
b. Why is there a tractor trailer in the middle of this suburb?
That's just a few things that immediately come to mind. Hope it helps.
DingBat said:
1. What do u mean with that?
2. That was the best i could do b.c Frag.Ops doesnt have many and the few that do are huge and i have alot of ppl that use Dial Up and the map needs to stay small.
3. Its not streched it just looks that way in the pic.
4. Forgot to do some of them...sry...
5. Because it just takes up room and it helps the game play of it. (Frag.Ops game play btw)
and angel i will be adding like green,yellow,red lights to the stop lights.
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SwampF0x said:
Hi,
1. Maybe I can't see it very well in the screenies but the lighting looks dead flat. Is there a sunlight actor or is the level lit just with zone light? There's no depth, or shadows, or contrast anywhere.
2. What's the size of the map? 10Mb? 20? A few more k on top of that for some added texture variety is worth it. Your choice tho.
Cheers
Please, ...SwampF0x said:
If you're looking for kudos and applause, you're in the wrong place and going about it the wrong way.
If you're interested in suggestions from people who can help you (like with lighting), then take their advice with gratitude.
So far, your posts have come off about as congenial as a Kodiak bear raiding a basket of sandwiches.
... mmm ...
Sandwiches.
When your maps need that much work, yes, it is too much.SwampF0x said:
One of the major problems in the community imo is that compliments are handed out like candy, and they don't really help people make better maps.
Turret 49 said:^that cylinder in the last pic has way too many sides than you'll ever need, but the map around it is looking good
it needed that many sides to be a perfect circle b.c that "A" Thing needed to get through it. and ty for the compliment i apreciate it. and i made this in Photo Shop for my clan.
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SwampF0x said:
If the advice goes down better with a "good job" in front of it, then... good job.
Personally, I don't WANT to hear "good job". "Good job" tells me nothing. Crits tell me about things that I've missed, or things I didn't consider important but others do. Crits tell me how to get better.
Do you want your ego stroked or do you want to get better?
I'm no great mapper myself, certainly not on the level of others who have replied here. However, what little skill I do have, I got mostly from listening to feedback from others.
No one's trying to be "mean" here.
