That's freakingly frustrative to me too. Sometimes I manage to get the vehicle when I shoot it out from under the bot's nose. Avril is good.
How would you like the current vehicles tweaked?
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BooGiTyBoY
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Vault said:and you say i spam? nice example mentor
Well see the difference is I already posted in this thread with constructive comments and stayed on topic with the thread. This particular post was an expression of my opinion towards the topic of the thread and was in no way just a lame comment to boost my post count.
Unlike other people who start "Why do people like Halo so much" threads in a UT2007 forum.
Kthanxbai.
Sorry.. you lose. Please try again.
Hehe, now with the upcoming Voice AI (or whatever) you can say:
"Echo, get the f**k out of that Manta!"
"Roger that, Blue Leader"
Israphel said:
Very good post, Israphel, and I wholeheartedly agree on the subject of physics.
The physics for vehicles in UT2k7 is what I believe will be the most noticeable difference compared with their UT2k4 counterparts. However, I'm not sure how they're going to handle weight distribution for the scorpion and similar vehicles without an analogue steering method (mouse, controller etc.), which I think is part of the reason why the warthog felt a lot more weighty with the increased level of control. Of course we have the handbrake, but it didn't allow you to slide with the entire vehicle, which is something I hope we'll be able to do in UT2k7. It'd probably be easier to run people down if we were able to do so...and more fun too.
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Goliath damage must be super powered keeping in mind that the oposite team's firepower concentrates on the goliath (which is a nice target even across the map with the SR).
Raptor is also OK. It is the hardest vehicle to drive (..ok fly) with ppl hitting u with their SR, LG (they can see you but you cannot see them..at least not fast enough). SR owns the raptor so much I cannot see any reason to complain about the splash damage.
What I would like to see is the damage affecting the way the vehicle drives/operates. As it is now i am happily shoting away from my "goliath in flames" having 24/800 armor lol.
How about these? (in case armor drops below 30%)
The scorpion having a flat tire.
A manta's left blade stop operating causing a small drift effect
A raptors engine catching fire causing drift and/or stall
The goliath move slower?
Goliath damage must be super powered keeping in mind that the oposite team's firepower concentrates on the goliath (which is a nice target even across the map with the SR).
Raptor is also OK. It is the hardest vehicle to drive (..ok fly) with ppl hitting u with their SR, LG (they can see you but you cannot see them..at least not fast enough). SR owns the raptor so much I cannot see any reason to complain about the splash damage.
What I would like to see is the damage affecting the way the vehicle drives/operates. As it is now i am happily shoting away from my "goliath in flames" having 24/800 armor lol.
How about these? (in case armor drops below 30%)
The scorpion having a flat tire.
A manta's left blade stop operating causing a small drift effect
A raptors engine catching fire causing drift and/or stall
The goliath move slower?
manta ruins things i say.
I`d rather see a bike in its place, with guns on it of course
(think of Judge dread and the law master)
I`d rather see a bike in its place, with guns on it of course
(think of Judge dread and the law master)
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SirYawnalot said:
or they can do it like the rocket launcher... hold down both fire buttons to engage teh third mode
Israphel said:
yeah, i agree here, the vehicles in ut2k4 are pure netcode, they move more like players than real vehicles, like they are simply coded with different actions (spin out etc) instead of being actually affected by real physics... in fact they are alot like character models, with only spinning animations for wheels and suspension(shoot grenades at any vehicles wheels and you see they are not real wheels,also when the scorpion or hellbender comes to a sudden stop you can tell the wheels are playing the 'stopping' animation) and bits that move around to show where they are aiming... the bulldog from ut2k3 however was a real vehicle (with wheels ,proper momentum, traction, etc)but it was impossible to execute over the network and really looked like it had a different plane of existence because it lagged behind players so badly,and most of the time it just crashed the server... so the 2k4 vehicles are severely physics-stripped to make onslaught a possibility, but in the future we dont have to worry about 56k players anymore (hopefully) so bandwidth-heavy stuff like simulating vehicles can be done...
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also i rather like the vehicle physics in GTA: vice city, they're a whole bunch of fun,
if they can make it that tanks seem appropiately heavy i'll be impressed! a tank fallin from a height should rock the ground!
if they can make it that tanks seem appropiately heavy i'll be impressed! a tank fallin from a height should rock the ground!
Unreality said:
Originally, the tank hovered (ie, had no treads). I'm guessing that some elements of the hover were kept in owing to technical problems with making realistic treads that deformed to the terrain the way wheels do on the scorpion and hellbender.
Hopefully, the new physics engine/ increased polycount will solve all that and we'll be treated to a fully functional tank.
Which, incidentally, will plummet and tumble properly when driven off a cliff.
BooGiTyBoY
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I'd like to see more FF from blown up vehicles. If you blow up a tank and there's 2 people sitting 2 feet behind trying to heal it with their link guns.. they should go splatty when that thing goes up as well.
Yap, this would strenghten the reality a little bit more *g*
well instead of making a whole necris set of cars, there could be vehicles by the other races too in the game.
a fast gen mo`kai vehicle, an egyptian "warbird", or just a small rolling jug-fortress, would make things better I think *g* or just more vehicle sets! Show us the technique of the others too or a small machine like the battlemechs! That would be awesome *g*
well instead of making a whole necris set of cars, there could be vehicles by the other races too in the game.
a fast gen mo`kai vehicle, an egyptian "warbird", or just a small rolling jug-fortress, would make things better I think *g* or just more vehicle sets! Show us the technique of the others too
or a small machine like the battlemechs! That would be awesome *g*
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Egyptians are acrobatic, so the warbird is a good idea
Too bad that the Gen Mo'kai are goners. I really liked them. Racial vehicles are a very good idea. I want to see racial starting weapons too.
Too bad that the Gen Mo'kai are goners. I really liked them. Racial vehicles are a very good idea. I want to see racial starting weapons too.
Effects when a vehichle becomes critically dammaged would be great fun. I don't really like degredation though. Blowing the tracks off tanks\wheels off levis will be fine - as long as it can only be done by grenades. If you can immobilise them from a distance; that would be far too limiting.
But when a scorpion reaches 5 health or less, triggerring it's self destruct sequence; when a tank reaches 5 health, it's tracks would drop off; or the equivalent of 2-3 shells going off inside it; when a cicada/raptor reaches 5 health, it looses power and plummets to the ground - that would all be fun. It wouldn't happen all that often, since it would be rare for a vehichle to have a health of 0-5 - usually it would have suffered critical dammage. It would just add in a little more variety and chaos. And chaos is good.
But when a scorpion reaches 5 health or less, triggerring it's self destruct sequence; when a tank reaches 5 health, it's tracks would drop off; or the equivalent of 2-3 shells going off inside it; when a cicada/raptor reaches 5 health, it looses power and plummets to the ground - that would all be fun. It wouldn't happen all that often, since it would be rare for a vehichle to have a health of 0-5 - usually it would have suffered critical dammage. It would just add in a little more variety and chaos. And chaos is good.
I just thought of something I'd like to add.
What I'd like to see them do is to set a small delay (half a sec or so) when switching positions in vehicles. That way it'd be harder for people to switch from the driver position to the skymine-cannon position in a hellbender or from driver to gunner in a cicada etc. As it is now I think it's just way to easy for a single player to handle multiple positions in vehicles that are supposed to be at least twice as effective when manned by multiple players. IMO this doesn't really promote teamwork and I hope that by handicapping players that bugger off all alone in a hellbender will do just that.
What I'd like to see them do is to set a small delay (half a sec or so) when switching positions in vehicles. That way it'd be harder for people to switch from the driver position to the skymine-cannon position in a hellbender or from driver to gunner in a cicada etc. As it is now I think it's just way to easy for a single player to handle multiple positions in vehicles that are supposed to be at least twice as effective when manned by multiple players. IMO this doesn't really promote teamwork and I hope that by handicapping players that bugger off all alone in a hellbender will do just that.