This article (again at abovetopsecret forums) caught my interest. This would explain allot of how germany fought at the end of WW2.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread124598/pg1
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread124598/pg1
Hitler had a atomic bomb?
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Hitler didn't have atomic weapons. He did try very hard to make them though. The heavy water plant in Vemork, Norway was what he planned to use in the production. The Norwegian resitance launched two sabotage operations to stop the production of the heavy water. In the first one they blew up the water tanks within the plant itself. However, the plant was operational again within a month. Hitler decided that the plant wasn't safe and made arrangements to get substantial amount of heavy water back to Germany. Once again his plans were blown to bits when the resistance blew up the boat that was carrying the water to Germany.
Logically, production of the claimed nuclear weapons would have taken place in Norway at the time, where one of the key ingredients for production were located. No trace of such a facility has been found here, or in any other country for that matter. Also, Hitler's desperate attempts to get the heavy water back to Germany suggests that nothing was being produced yet. Had he already been producing nuclear weapons one would think that he didn't need to move the heavy water to Germany. Sure, there were plans for production, but no one can with any certainty say that he already had nuclear weapons. If he had something even remotely similar to a nuclear bomb, he wouldn't have hesitated for a second to use it.
As for the "fight to the last man"-strategy, that was not only a strategy that was used during the last year of the war. Retreat wasn't part of Hitler's vocabulary. The reason for that is probably that he believed blindly in the Blitz krieg- strategy, which is the exact opposite of retreat, that had proved so successful during the first years of the war. That, and the fact that he was a extremely smart raving lunatic with no concept of adapting millitary strategy to suit the situation on a live battlefield. Had it not been for Hitler's generals, the war would most likely have ended much earlier than it did.
Logically, production of the claimed nuclear weapons would have taken place in Norway at the time, where one of the key ingredients for production were located. No trace of such a facility has been found here, or in any other country for that matter. Also, Hitler's desperate attempts to get the heavy water back to Germany suggests that nothing was being produced yet. Had he already been producing nuclear weapons one would think that he didn't need to move the heavy water to Germany. Sure, there were plans for production, but no one can with any certainty say that he already had nuclear weapons. If he had something even remotely similar to a nuclear bomb, he wouldn't have hesitated for a second to use it.
As for the "fight to the last man"-strategy, that was not only a strategy that was used during the last year of the war. Retreat wasn't part of Hitler's vocabulary. The reason for that is probably that he believed blindly in the Blitz krieg- strategy, which is the exact opposite of retreat, that had proved so successful during the first years of the war. That, and the fact that he was a extremely smart raving lunatic with no concept of adapting millitary strategy to suit the situation on a live battlefield. Had it not been for Hitler's generals, the war would most likely have ended much earlier than it did.
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I don't believe he had one either, I am pretty sure he came along the path to a nuke alot faster than what most books claim though.
That said, I wish no one would have nukes. But this probably goes without saying.
That said, I wish no one would have nukes. But this probably goes without saying.
There's an article about this in the latest issue of the German news magazine 'Focus', it's pretty interesting. A historian wrote a book suggesting that the Reich got a very simple bomb towards the end of the war, apparently other historians won't rule out the possibility that it's true.
All I've heard is that the Nazis where really close to an A-bomb. Whether or not they had a working prototype is extremely debatable. Considering that the Germans had a working jet fighter, I dont think it would suprise me too much.
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Whew, I thought that was gonna be a piece about how Truman was the true demon compared to Hitler, who was peaceful and reserved. 
Na we've aready got one bitter trench war going on in another thread.
(but it was a war crime to drop the bombs)
-How.
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I find the night vision more impressive
And yes, dropping the bomb was a huge war crime, probably the biggest ever. I mean dropping it into a living city (2 cities).
I know wiping out civilians was done in huge steps by others, but they never denied making a crime, but the US as something that fights for freedom and against the evil (as it claimes to do) and than That!
And yes, dropping the bomb was a huge war crime, probably the biggest ever. I mean dropping it into a living city
(2 cities).I know wiping out civilians was done in huge steps by others, but they never denied making a crime, but the US as something that fights for freedom and against the evil (as it claimes to do) and than That!
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Linkage : http://www.warbirdalley.com/me262.htm
Yes but then again all the allies are just as guilty as it was a joint decion.
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Psychomorph- See if you can find this book. "The Burning Mountian" . Historical fiction written around the "conventional" invasions plans of Japan.
The use of atomic weapons on Hiroshima, and Nagasaki were,if anything, a blessing in disguise to the Japanese. A land/conventional invasion would have essentially resulted in the destruction of the Japanese as a people, if not a culture.
For greater levels of destruction, look to the bombing campaigns of Dresden, or Tokyo. Hiroshima, and Nagasaki were significant merely because of the devastation wrought by ONE dropped device instead of thousands.
The use of atomic weapons on Hiroshima, and Nagasaki were,if anything, a blessing in disguise to the Japanese. A land/conventional invasion would have essentially resulted in the destruction of the Japanese as a people, if not a culture.
For greater levels of destruction, look to the bombing campaigns of Dresden, or Tokyo. Hiroshima, and Nagasaki were significant merely because of the devastation wrought by ONE dropped device instead of thousands.