Look at me I know everything about relationships and human behaviour! itt.
Now we're thinking alike.
Look at me I know everything about relationships and human behaviour! itt.
Heh! I doubt that.Don't believe me then. But it's still the truth and you'll see it sooner or later.
...But it's still the truth and you'll see it sooner or later.
Keep preaching The Truth though bro!Wow... lots of wrong here and not much right.
What about those people who act nice because it's a choice and it's their way of making the world a better place ? I had a good upbringing but I have many reasons to be asshole. I choose to be nice because it feels right in the gut and, on those rare occasions when someone is trying really hard to annoy me, the "nice" switch goes off very fast. Do you consider that being honestly nice, acting or something else ?
* Clarification: T2a did not start this thread/conv. It begun in the "official photography" thread. This conversation was slowly derailing the purpose of said thread, and imho had to start a life of its own. So I've simply extracted it, so the photography could stay on topic, and made up a silly title I suppose...- NeoNite
Maybe she should stop dating assholes...?
I've always wondered why girls go for the assholes and then act surprised when they get treated like crap. It's like buying a sh*tty used car and then being surprised when the transmission fails right before an important trip. Why put faith into something so flimsy? It's unlogical.
There's a recipe for disaster if I've ever seen one. If her self-esteem and self-worth is all superficial -- no deeper than her skin and her boyfriend -- she's got problems. What happens when her boyfriend breaks up with her? A mental meltdown? Probably. Have fun dealing with that fallout.![]()
if you ever get close to a human
and human behaviour
be ready be ready to get confused
there's definitely definitely definitely no logic
to human behaviour
but yet so yet so irresistible
and there's no map to human behaviour
they're terribly terribly terribly terribly moody
then all of a sudden turn happy
but, oh, to get involved in the exchange
of human emotions
is ever so ever so satisfying
and there's no map
and a compass wouldn't help at all
pretty much. I think the "girls like assholes" thing is misunderstood. I believe it's more of a confidence and/or the lack of being controllable thing. A guy that is confident enough to make a girl (and usually himself) believe they can hook up with the next girl that walks through the door has the same appeal. It keeps the hard to get/keep, thrill of the chase thing alive. If you can get a handle on that then you can really be yourself, at least for the most part.If the girl meets a nice guy who also happens to be a lot of fun, who is self confident without being an asshole, who is successful in his field and confident about his prospects, who likes to club and go out, etc., she will take him over the asshole right away, hands down, every time.
The nerdy girl who plays D&D and loves FPSs sounds great in theory
Wow... lots of wrong here and not much right. Okay kiddies, it's time for a few protips:
1. You can't turn a ho into a housewife. Stop trying. If you're with a girl who goes for the assholes and you are not an asshole and it's not going well, just give up -- she won't change anytime soon enough no matter what you do.
2. Money has no place in true love. Period. Any non-marriage or non-living-together relationship that factors money into the equation AT ALL is not true and will probably fail or end up being a relationsh*t that is devoid of emotion (i.e. sticking together 'just for the popularity factor.' You see this a lot in high school and sometimes college.)
3. For the girl, a guy's looks usually ARE a factor. Not as much as it is for guys looking at girls, but it's still there. How many dog-dick-ugly dudes do you see trotting around with perfect tens on their arms? Zero. Even with 7's or 8's? Not many. For that matter, how many average Joes do you see going out with perfect tens? Again, not many. It IS relative.
4. For a guy, a girl doesn't have to be a perfect ten to warrant going after. The media/pop culture makes it seem that way but it's not true. Plenty of 'average' girls are going out with plenty of 'hot' guys. Actually, the real factor is willingness to put out. Perfect tens are usually very popular and have high self-esteem, which makes them less likely to put out, which makes them less desireable for the average guy. Of course, there are exceptions to this rule -- every now and then you get a perfect ten who is also a total slut and will sleep with anyone. But this is usually because of insecurity issues from family or past boyfriends.
5. Girls that like nice guys also like assholes to some extent, and may even cheat with one just to see what it's like. It's true, so get your heads out of your asses and deal with it. If you're a nice guy and you've been with your girl for a while, even if she loves you, chances are she has considered what it would be like to go out with your asshole friend. And she might even act on it, usually behind your back. In fact, she might have already and you'd never know it. Trust me on this one, I've seen it happen to friends and have had it happen to me. At least 70% of people that get cheated on don't even know about it until months or years later. And I'd guess that at least 20% don't ever find out. Of those that get cheated on, at least 50% of them are cheated on with someone they know, be it a best friend, relative, boss, gym buddy, etc. The percentages for 'with people you know' are usually higher for guys that cheat; they tend to be more prone to cheating on their current girlfriend with one of her hotter friends.
6. People do change over time. Girls will go for nicer/less attractive guys as time goes on and they get older, unless they're just that dumb. After a while the hot assholes will get old, and girls will slowly migrate to nicer and nicer guys who are willing to work harder to make a relationship work (or work harder for them, to achieve their own ends. See the next point, 'Personal Agendas.')
7. Personal Agendas, everyone has them in some shape or form, and they do factor heavily into new relationships. I find that most couples start out from trying to fulfill their own personal agendas at the time; usually the two meet, the guy wants to get laid and the girl wants someone to hold her and spend money on her. Sometimes these people change and drop their personal agendas and it becomes a real relationship. Sometimes they don't and they split up after a few months. But every now and then, one of them might drop the personal agenda and try to make it work, but the other will still just want whatever they were after, be it sex, money, or company. These relationships are doomed to failure, because after a certain point one party will get tired of the other and move on, while the remaining party is sitting there wondering 'what they did wrong.'
I think that's enough for now...
Generalization ftw! This is really great! If only there were more arrogant people here with such clear vision!!!In defense of superficiality:
It must be said I am extremely superficial. I do not understand people who insist that a person doesn't need to be physically attractive to date. I thought that's why we had a word called 'friend.' While my girlfriends in the past have run a gamut in terms of looks, from petite and mousy (as in nerdy librarian type mousy) to cheerleader-y, they have all been extremely attractive. I have dated bitches because they were hot and I have even fallen for girls that were wrong for me in a number of ways. I love girls that are fun, that love to have a great time and are looking for ways to get a little crazy. Sure, they tend to be obnoxious, but that's often the price one must pay for the ride.
The nerdy girl who plays D&D and loves FPSs sounds great in theory, but often this comes at the expense of the girl being lazy about her appearance (like so many gamers). Who wants that? If faced with the choice of the ugly girl with the great personality and the hot bitch I'll date the bitch everytime. Hands down. Partly it's because there is a thrill of self-esteem boosting when you're with a hot girl. Partly it's because I would rather introduce a hot girl to games/books/movies I love than try to get a gamer to buy nice clothes and get on a treadmill. Mostly I'm just shallow.
So why do these girls take the asshole over the nice guy? The same reasons. They have a set of things that they crave and much of the time the asshole fulfills more of them than the 'nice guy.' How many nice guys go to the gym daily and love to club? How many nice guys possess a self-confidence and talk about what they ARE doing with their life rather than what, maybe, they might want to do, perhaps, if the world doesn't shut them down again?
If the girl meets a nice guy who also happens to be a lot of fun, who is self confident without being an asshole, who is successful in his field and confident about his prospects, who likes to club and go out, etc., she will take him over the asshole right away, hands down, every time. Of course, most of the time the term 'nice guy' is used by nerds who aren't really any better than most assholes: they get just as jealous, they also spend time away from their girlfriends (videogames instead of drinking with friends), they also cheat, they also act like jerks, etc.
So yeah, I'm shallow, it's worked out for me and I'm happy with it. I don't hold shallowness against any girl and I get why they will try to curb an asshole's worse qualities instead of trying to instill charisma into a 'nice guy.' Besides, I think much of this moaning and whining is silly anyways.
~Jason
Generalization ftw! This is really great! If only there were more arrogant people here with such clear vision!!!
if I so much as a brush arms with a girl I will rush home to immediately post about it on the internet. Everyone must know.
BTW, today I talked to a girl.
TWD posts about going out there and getting it when his wife e-stalked him then asked him out or whatever.
This thread is amazing.