The title says it all, I mean that the kick is much more important with a weapon when it's aimed and a scope is atached than when using ironsights... Why?
Excessive muzzle climb for zoomed weapons
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The choice came down to realism or gameplay, he chose realism, I would have chosen gameplay.Arethusa said:
Arethusa said:
That's the biggest pile of **** I've heard in a while. If Beppo said that then I dispare. The body/weapon position should be NO different when using a scope then the iron sights unless your scope is badly fitted or adjusted. Felt recoil also has absolutly NOTHING to do with how you hold the weapon. An M16 is ALWAYS going to recoil with about 5.5j energy. However, your control may be compromised if you don't have a proper grip/ position with the weapon.
weapon moving is also more (accuracy less)
but i dont have a problem with it i just dont use scopes . i found out that a iron sights are better in inf for every situation.
but i hope that in inf ut2k4 theire wont be balancing like this
but i dont have a problem with it i just dont use scopes . i found out that a iron sights are better in inf for every situation.
but i hope that in inf ut2k4 theire wont be balancing like this
That's not the only problem with the scopes ingame. In addition to having more recoil, the scopes don't shoot where you aim them unless you hold breath.
The only way to get the crosshairs to point where the bullet will go when breathing, is to take a couple steps walking, then stop and immediately fire. The scope will momentarily point in the correct direction in the pause between walking sway/bob and standing sway/bob.
And then there is the fact that the ironsights sway isn't really sway, it is just fake bob made by the camera moving around.... sigh. Picking apart INF's faults gets depressing.
The only way to get the crosshairs to point where the bullet will go when breathing, is to take a couple steps walking, then stop and immediately fire. The scope will momentarily point in the correct direction in the pause between walking sway/bob and standing sway/bob.
And then there is the fact that the ironsights sway isn't really sway, it is just fake bob made by the camera moving around.... sigh. Picking apart INF's faults gets depressing.
keihaswarrior said:
You technically should be able to use the parralax and still have some degree of accuracy, but only with rav3, otherwise it's simply random.
keihaswarrior said:And then there is the fact that the ironsights sway isn't really sway, it is just fake bob made by the camera moving around.... sigh. Picking apart INF's faults gets depressing.
Tried it with RAv3? It really is sway.
geogob
Koohii o nomimasu ka?
I hate balance. Balance is what they did to the M249 MINIMI in Counter Strike. I hate balance. I hate balance.
every thing the inf team has balanced about the weapons
made the balanced weapons rare on the servers..
made the balanced weapons rare on the servers..
Well you see, this is the challenge. A game designer with the intent of realism has to make alot of tough decisions to incorporate something realistic, for balance, or somewhere in between. As you suggested, CS made this decision poorly. But look at INF, they implemented the minimi alot more realistically, and it is still perfectly balanced! How? I don't know, ask the game designers.geogob said:
So you're saying it has attributes that make it too useful or too useless more often than not?Vega-don said:
I like how people say they wanna get rid of all balancing features, when in fact no one has ever played an unbalanced game. Such games don't exist, or are labelled as "games with gameplay flaws" and destined to disappear quickly.
Many people give rav2 as the perfect example of the victory of realism over balance, but the truth is that rav2 was much more balanced than vanilla Inf (except for the mp5 which people kept complaining about).
That said, i agree the current scope system is lame.
Many people give rav2 as the perfect example of the victory of realism over balance, but the truth is that rav2 was much more balanced than vanilla Inf (except for the mp5 which people kept complaining about).
That said, i agree the current scope system is lame.
Reality is perfectly balanced, it is in his nature. More balanced than all the games in the market.
The only problem is when a 'realistic' game simulate some stuff fine, and other things remains in a more gamey manner. In other words, always. Ex: spawns in games with "waves".
The only problem is when a 'realistic' game simulate some stuff fine, and other things remains in a more gamey manner. In other words, always. Ex: spawns in games with "waves".
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The problem is, that you'd have to implement everything of the reality into the game to make it as balanced like reality.