Diablo 3

[Zaccix]

I wonder... If I pre-order D3 too early, will the ink on the receipt fade before the game is out?

 

[Sirius]

I wonder... If I pre-order D3 too early, will the ink on the receipt fade before the game is out?

I doubt it. From the looks of it they have been working on it for some time.
How they kept it under wraps for so long is anybody's guess.

According to 1UP it has a Sep 09 release date. I have no idea how accurate that is though.

 

[ShakeZula]

considering that blizzard haven't said a single word about release date i'd say pretty inaccurate

 

[Fuzzle]

Man, I wouldn't wanna be a battle.net mod these days.

http://scrap.5elements.net/blizforums2.jpg

But hey, at least some people manage constructive criticism
http://www.battle.net/forums/thread.aspx?fn=d3-general&t=1429&p=1&#post1429

NO FIRST PERSON, MAN.

 

[ZenPirate]

I see a forum that needs yellow5.

 

[Unreality]

damn that looks sweeeet

 

[Sir_Brizz]

Titan Quest has zooming, and Mythos has zooming and rotation. your conclusion is correct, but your reasons are not!

I don't care what other games have, Blizzard games feel EXTREMELY cramped previous to WoW. Going back and playing them now is terrorizing to brain cells because you can hardly see any of the battlefield at one time, and this includes Warcraft 3.

Here's also to hoping that Starcraft 2 has zoom functionality. If it doesn't, I probably will buy it when it hits the bargain bin and hardly ever play it.

 

[ShakeZula]

i'm all for a first-person game set in sanctuary but don't do that **** with diablo 3, we've waited like 7 years for a new d2 and that's what we want damn it

I don't care what other games have, Blizzard games feel EXTREMELY cramped previous to WoW. Going back and playing them now is terrorizing to brain cells because you can hardly see any of the battlefield at one time, and this includes Warcraft 3.

well you said diablo 3 would be the best isometric hack and slash ever entirely on the basis that it has zoom, and i named two other isometric hack and slash games that have zoom thus proving your theory illogical. so don't get all "i don't care what other games have" with ME you penis grabber

 

[Fuzzle]

Yes, It has always amazed me how a series with such terrible graphics can have so much depth of atmosphere. The camera is very detatched from the world, yet I still find Diablo very immersive.



I simply don't understand people who are against first person Diablo.

Just look at this scene. Go ahead, maximize it and soak up the atmosphere:

[SCREENSHOT]http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2048/ss12hiresgi4.jpg[/SCREENSHOT]

... now, imagine walking through it in first person. I can not even begin to describe how absolutely F***ING AWESOME that would be. With modern engines it is possible to have an environment as detailed as the above picture, so WHY DON'T THEY DO IT?

The Diablo series has only ever had two major flaws: graphical detail and combat gameplay. Assuming they did it right, first person camera could change that. Now, even with the above flaws, Diablo has always been equal to the Unreal series in quality - thats SECOND TO NONE. Imagine what it could be without those flaws...

Bah. I consider Diablo to be the icon of easily digestible hack'n'slash fun action-rpg, and I don't see that working in a first person format *at all*. It would be a game set in the diablo universe, but not a "diablo game". They might as well come up with an entirely new franchise if they go that route.

Why even pick on diablo if you want fps-rpg's? There are so many other options down that road anyway.

 

[shadow_dragon]

An FPS game would be completely different to Diablo and thus a Diablo sequel shouldn't be an FPS.
A cool FPS like Diablo would be cool but Diablo itself? It'd be like making Command and Conquer an FPS.
Kind of a neat idea but a different game.

 

[shadow_dragon]

Diablo is all about the storyline/lore. I believe that story could be better told as a first person game. With current technology, there really is any reason for any standard RPG not to be in first person. Those older RPG's only had that isometric camera angle because of technical limitations - it just wasnt possible to have a first person game of that scale back then, but it is now.

There is one reason why they shouldn't be an FPS. First person combat with melee weapons is abysmal and only occasionally done well. You could say Morrowind/Oblivion is just fine but it's hardly the most fun combat system and the same applies to most other first person melee combat games, hence why they usually go for third person. I think you'll also find that a lot of RPG'ers like to see themselves as they play(hence why some guys play as girls i imagine) first person actually detriments a lot to how an RPG functions and feels i think you'll find.

IMO first person would be cool but only as a spin off, ie, a seperate game. In the same way renegade was for C&C and Dark Messiah was for... Might and Magic? (niether did terribly well i might add)

 

[Fuzzle]

Diablo is all about the storyline/lore.

I respectfully disagree. Diablo - to me and all my friends - is all about the "just fun" action-rpg gameplay.

 

[Fuzzle]

Because mmo's aren't known for being easily digestible easy-to-pick-up action games the same way isometric action rpg's are.

I've played Daggerfall, Arena, Oblivion, Dark Messiah, The Witcher, and whatnot, and while they are "deeper" and more involving games, Diablo is more fun.
I just don't see the arcade elements which I enjoy in Diablo carrying over into a first person or over-the-shoulder game.

 

[ShakeZula]

no disrespect but i think maybe you should play a different game rather than campaign for a first-person diablo D: though i would love to play any game set in the diablo world if it was done well, the isometric games are still so fun (tens of thousands still play D2, so you can't say that it's obsolete tech) that a true sequel is top priority

 

[Wail of Suicide]

And I'm not sure anyone else really noticed, but check the gameplay trailer again and look at where the shortcut bar and health/mana balls are...middle of the screen. I think this shows that D3 will be a "Widescreen" game. And that regular 4:3 support will be included, but will 'encourage' people to upgrade their graphics/monitor to get the 'full experience' even if they don't upgrade their CPU.

Remind me why having less vertical space (aka "reading area") is good on a display?

Looks more like they just downsized the size of the interface in general, which is a good change considering how much screen space was taken up by it in past games. The health and mana orbs are still massive, which is fine for nostalgia, but I'm hoping they might have a UI option for health and mana bars instead.

 

[SleepyHe4d]

Once again, I think Diablo only contains those elements because when the series began, RPG games were limited to being like that.

Obviously not since they didn't change it. Sure first person might make it slightly more immersive but it would completely ruin what made it fun. Seriously why not just play Oblivion or make a new franchise if you want that crap? Why ruin Diablo for the fans? That's why all the Fallout fans are pissed right now.

 

[SleepyHe4d]

If the camera angle/POV is the only thing that makes Diablo Diablo to you, then Blizzard have failed miserably in creating a unique and memorable series.

Same goes for the story too. Sorry to say but in games, gameplay > story. If you want a movie go watch MGS4 or a movie. It's a fact that it would completely change the gameplay and feel of Diablo if it was in first person.

 

[The Dopefish]

Same goes for the story too. Sorry to say but in games, gameplay > story. If you want a movie go watch MGS4 or a movie. It's a fact that it would completely change the gameplay and feel of Diablo if it was in first person.

"Story" doesn't always mean "FMV". See Half-Life, et. al.

 

[SleepyHe4d]

Yeah I know, that MGS4 bit was just a low blow.

 

[MonsOlympus]

I guess people are missing something very crucial here, fighting in first person with hand to hand or melee weapons generally sucks a big one. Its not an easy thing to do at all so even if you can get it kinda right you still need a decent view of the whole character at once to know wtf is going on.

Why does everything have to be first person? You know why movies dont use first person more often? Its simply not the best view of the action thats why, sure neither is isometric but you get alittle bit more of it.

Im just sick of everyone wanting First Person in the name of immersion, I mean thats very subjective so you arnt able to get into a game purely because of the camera angle... I mean theres nothing wrong with the game lets put it that way.

I find it easier to perform certain tasks in third person or iso view hey, like trying to roll in first person... Can you imagine them trying to explain whirlwind away in a first person camera? Oh the camera doesnt spin cause theres a doozywatzit, yeah sure we can say its a sacrifice in the name of gameplay but thats why this game isnt first person in the first place, thats the sacrifice for diablo's gameplay.

Dont like it? Well diablo aint the game for you, perhaps moraff's world is more your style!