Borderlands 2

[Sir_Brizz]

Thats crazy. I have a i5 Sandy bridge with a GTX 680 and it struggles with physics on max. I like to keep the game at a constant 60fps. Anything slower and I've gotta back some settings down.

I think my processor makes the difference here. UE3 is still pretty CPU heavy. There are some very few areas where I will notice PhysX causing some weird issues, but it seems to be heavy bloom areas with a lot of PhysX things going on.

 

[JohnDoe641]

UE3 and all Unreal Engine games are redicoulous with their CPU dependency. My 560Ti loses only 10 fps going from 1280x1024 to 1920x1200 with all settings maxed so my card takes almost no penalty at that res but it's mainly my CPU which is killing it. My good old Xeon X3370 quad core @ 3Ghz is definitely showing its age with this game.

 

[ambershee]

I'm running on a Xeon Quad and 9800GT with physics on max and laughing. How the heck is a GTX680 struggling?

 

[DarkED]

For reference I have:

Core i3-530 OC'd @ 3.53ghz
4GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3-1600 (2x2 dualchannel)
XFX HD5850 1GB

I can run the game @ 1920x1080 4xAA/FXAA with Physics on lowest and otherwise maxed settings at 60fps fairly steady. There's two or three very open spots in the game where it drops to ~45fps due to the huge amount of detail being rendered, a good example is the Control Core gate in Thousand Cuts.

I had to turn vsync off because BL2 does that stupid thing where if you drop to 59fps it takes you down to 30fps. I walk the line between 59-60fps so it tends to happen every five seconds. Sucks playing with visual tearing but there's no way to get around the 30fps downcap. So I guess I'm right on the edge of max settings and smoothness.

In any case, I think it's time to upgrade. A few recent releases have really pushed my hardware.

 

[Sir_Brizz]

I'm running on a Xeon Quad and 9800GT with physics on max and laughing. How the heck is a GTX680 struggling?

Dunno, but my Q6600 and Radeon HD 5770 with 4gb RAM were choking on the game. I had to run it at mostly medium settings and (obviously) no PhysX. I currently have everything on max including AA and PhysX and only rarely notice any frame dropping. It usually only happens when tons of PhysX rubble is getting tossed up and then I look towards the sun and get tons of bloom going on.

 

[Capt.Toilet]

I'm running on a Xeon Quad and 9800GT with physics on max and laughing. How the heck is a GTX680 struggling?

You have physics set to cpu or gpu because I don't see how that is possible?

my i5-3570k with a geforce 670 usually drop to the 30's in high physx situations. Strange because before one of the dlc patches physx actually ran pretty good.

Oh and a bit of odd performance with this game in general. Right before you enter the area to fight Bunker, you can view basically the entire area leading up to that point. With physx off I get solid 60.. with it on I get lower 30's. Pretty strange that

 

[DarkED]

You have physics set to cpu or gpu because I don't see how that is possible?

my i5-3570k with a geforce 670 usually drop to the 30's in high physx situations. Strange because before one of the dlc patches physx actually ran pretty good.

Oh and a bit of odd performance with this game in general. Right before you enter the area to fight Bunker, you can view basically the entire area leading up to that point. With physx off I get solid 60.. with it on I get lower 30's. Pretty strange that

Not sure if it's the cause but turn vsync off and try again. I bet you'll stop dropping to 30. Might drop somewhere in the 50's. Of course, the visual tearing will be god-awful. Thank you Gearbox, you've proven once again that you do not know how to properly implement vsync and triple-buffering.

From what I've been reading BL2 has some seriously weird Physx issues on certain nVidia cards. Most people just turn it off (by setting it to low.)

 

[Capt.Toilet]

Not sure if it's the cause but turn vsync off and try again. I bet you'll stop dropping to 30. Might drop somewhere in the 50's. Of course, the visual tearing will be god-awful. Thank you Gearbox, you've proven once again that you do not know how to properly implement vsync and triple-buffering.

From what I've been reading BL2 has some seriously weird Physx issues on certain nVidia cards. Most people just turn it off (by setting it to low.)

Only problem is I don't have vsync turned on It is some sort of shoddy physx implementation. The aformentioned area doesn't even have any physx going on either.. its just a large view of the thousand cuts area.
As I said most of the physx issues began when they started implementing the dlc patches. And wouldn't you know it, the first game had performance issues when they issued that games dlc patches. Maybe Gearbox should just stop making dlc all together.. that would be a fucking dream come true

 

[ambershee]

You have physics set to cpu or gpu because I don't see how that is possible?

It'll all be on the CPU. I don't think the 9800 can handle SPH particles; it struggled in UT3 until you turned off the 'hardware' acceleration flag.

 

[Capt.Toilet]

It'll all be on the CPU. I don't think the 9800 can handle SPH particles; it struggled in UT3 until you turned off the 'hardware' acceleration flag.

Ah bueno that is what I figured

 

[OO7MIKE]

I'm running on a Xeon Quad and 9800GT with physics on max and laughing. How the heck is a GTX680 struggling?

It seams to change from driver to driver. I no longer suffer from the 30fps vsync bug with the latest drivers, however physics on high do not run as well as with a previous driver. As I said, I like a constant 60fps and the latest badass crater dlc arean map gets drops from 60fps to 45fps by the time I'm done with it.. and thats with physics off!

I suspect having lots of drops laying around might have something to do with that.

 

[DarkED]

The aformentioned area doesn't even have any physx going on either.. its just a large view of the thousand cuts area.

My framerate bombs in Thousand Cuts too, I have physics set to low. I figured it was the amount of detail being rendered but I guess it could be a physics bug.

 

[Mozi]

I run Borderlands 2 at home on a GTX 580 with full PhysX, no issues here.

 

[Sir_Brizz]

I'm on a GTX 460 and I don't get this slowing down crap. It could be RAM based or CPU based.

 

[xMurphyx]

Do you have PhysX on Medium or High though? Because I'm on a GTX 460 too and PhysX slow it down considerably.

 

[OO7MIKE]

While I'm impressed that you don't experience any slowdowns on your system Sir_Brizz I wonder if you really do have all of your settings on max. More power to you if you do, its just hard to understand how your fps never dips below your target.

I have everything on max except for physics which are set on Low.
This also includes FSAA off and 16x anisotropic filtering. My graphics card settings has textures set to Highest Quality rather than the default setting of High quality. I run the game at 1920x1080 res.


My Rig:

Intel i5-3570k @ 3.8ghz
ASRock Z77E-ITX
Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR3 1866 (standard settings)
EVGA GTX 680 Superclocked Signature 2 (Underclocked to NVIDIA factory settings)
Samsung 840 Pro 256gb

 

[OO7MIKE]

Shift codes!

Good for 5 keys each.

PC / Mac Borderlands 2 SHiFT Code: K3K33-3W9JT-6XJJT-TB3JB-HWZZF
Xbox 360 Borderlands 2 SHiFT Code: WBWJ3-JHKSK-ZHXT6-CRTJT-BW59W
PlayStation 3 Borderlands 2 SHiFT Code: WBK3B-FKWCT-KWKWB-SJWTB-XCZK3

 

[Sir_Brizz]

Don't know what to tell you. Here's my settings. Feel free to let me know if I can turn them up any higher.
[screenshot]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595866493109090966/902EB4B56578EB98CC88680C720255B8022E8FBE/[/screenshot]
[screenshot]http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595866493109092849/D7F5FD4CE6EA8EC703A82888925F1743DC3E58D6/[/screenshot]
I'm not going to lie and say "I never get slow downs". However, I almost never do. I tried the spot in Thousand Cuts. Works fine. The only time I ever seem to see my framerate drop is when there are lots of PhysX objects around and I look at a light source like the sun or the moon base and get tons of bloom or HDr or whatever the word of the day is. And even then it doesn't kill my performance, it just noticeably affects it. As a point of fact, since it can't be seen in the screenshots, that is at 1920x1080.

My machine:
i7-3770k at stock
Gigabyte H77M-D3H (yes, that's an H77 chipset)
8gb DDR3 (I'm guessing this is low clock but I'm not sure)
EVGA Geforce GTX 460 1gb

Hard drive wise, I'm running on years-old 7200 rpm drives.

 

[Kyllian]

YOUR HUD AND FIELD OF VIEW ARE NOT AT MAXED OUT!

 

[DarkED]

YOUR HUD AND FIELD OF VIEW ARE NOT AT MAXED OUT!