Aiming M203 through the ACOG

[TheViper]

A discussion was going on in the General topic forum and something came up that the team might want to take a look at. IRL, if you were to have both an M203 and the acog on an M16, you would not be able to aim the M203 using the scope. Rather than seeing the target the 40mm will impact, you would only see blue sky through the scope, making it impossible to place the grenade via use of the scope. However, in Infiltration, using the acog is the most effective way to aim the M203, making this a bit of an unfair and unrealistic advantage.

Can the team consider changing the view through the acog to correspond to the elevated angle of the weapon (obvious when using iron sights) when using the M203? If someone wants to choose that weapon/attachment combination, then fine, but he's going to have to shoot the M203 without using sights/acog (from the hip in Inf) unless he wants to fire it blindly. This would best correlate with the real life situation (that is, if the M16/M203/acog combo occurs IRL, which I doubt). Thanks!

 

[RAZZ]

errm...
use this combination a few times befor trying to dictate how a grenadier operates.

youll notice You can see more firing it from the hip, and usualy be accurate enough to put nades through windows a good ways off.
acog+nades is the least of our problems.

 

[TheViper]

I DID use that combination, constantly, until I learned that it's not used IRL. Haven't used it since then.

No one's trying to -dictate- anything. This was a suggestion. This is the "New Version SUGGESTION" forum. Check it out.

 

[Chronic]

Do you people know that the M203 has a sight that mounts on top of the front grip, but out to the side, so it will not interfear with the scope? Therefor it IS possible to have an ACOG and M203.

Solution: INF team should add this, so that when you're on M203 firing mode and you aim, you look off to the side through this sight. It's that simple. Now people should STFU about the damn M203 and ACOG.

 

[poaw]

Prove it.

 

[RAZZ]

As long as you give the 203 user an alternate way to aim his gl, I dont have any quibbels.
but you cant take away the only solid method he has to control it right now without some kinda useable replacement.

irl troops can use the acog and 203, and still accuratly aim the 203 while the rifle's in an up position without using the scope.

I preferred the over acog view idea myself. if theres a proper site for the 203 we should use that instead.
but give us SOMETHING.

 

[Tiffy]

You r making me work too hard here Poaw.


This is a nice article on sights for the M16 series of weapons. You'll notice that the ACOG is fully compatable with the M203 Quadrant sight.

http://www.snipercountry.com/InReviews/Optics_Test.htm


So people what we need is a sight similar to the HK69. So when you go into the aim with the M203 selected, you use that one.

Gasp what a shocker, using the correct sight unit, well I never.

Now it just needs someone to do the animations an add the flipping thing to the M16/M203 combination.

 

[TheViper]

NOW we're getting somewhere, LOL! Thanks guys. I already checked out that site, it was posted by Asmodeus on the companion discussion on the General topic forum, it seems to have answered the question very soundly.

 

[Chronic]

Could someone else find a pic on this? I have no idea where to look. But I have seen pics of it, it does exist.

 

[LoTekK]

You'll notice that the ACOG is fully compatable with the M203 Quadrant sight.

tiff, i believe you meant the leaf sight... the quadrant sight is the one mounted on the carrying handle (the acog precludes this)

 

[Gholam]

And I'm not sure how is ACOG, or any other scope, compatible with the M203 sight, be it the quadrant or ladder. Mounting quadrant sight and a scope at the same time is simply impossible - if you are using a fixed loop upper, then rail mounting prevents installation of quadrant sight, and if you're using flattop, there's simply no place to mount the quadrant sight on. Ladder sight and a scope can coexist physically, but not practically - scope blocks iron sights on a fixed loop reciever, and there are no iron sights on flattop+scope, and you cannot use ladder sight while looking through scope.

 

[Tiffy]

Opps, posting too late at night. Yes thanks Tekk I did mean the Ladder sight, not the quadrant.

 

[Gholam]

It might work with ladder sight when mounted on a flattop upper reciever, but M16A2 modelled in Infiltration has a fixed loop carrying handle, and when you mount a scope on it, it ends up being too high to work with the ladder properly.