'Competitive Gaming' would probably do a lot better for itself if it stopped trying to invent a new competitive game every few weeks.
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The project is led of one of ut2004s most famous botters, guess nobody would ever dare installing it if they ever would finish it so GG.
BU is good friends with a famous botter.LoL/HoN/DOTA2 is taking over the competitive scene, there's no more room for fps games. They just way more evolved in features and way more accessible (Can play against people from around the world and stand a chance even with 250 latency. Also the developers actually fund and organize the tournaments.
It's like everyone is trying to reinvent the wooden wheel with fps games.
It's like everyone is trying to reinvent the wooden wheel with fps games.
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it's more like every one wants to appeal to the cod-playing 13 year old mainstream market, which is where the money is at.
You could play with 250 ping using zeroping type stuff... which wasn't perfect... but hardly an excuse. whether I can go up against people in Japan or not isn't exactly my top criteria for choosing which game to play... FPS are simply far more demanding to remain at a high level competitively consistently... there are so many variables.
I think it's funny that people see games like UT as mainly about reviving competitive scenes... it is so much more fun as a shits and giggles game....
I think it's funny that people see games like UT as mainly about reviving competitive scenes... it is so much more fun as a shits and giggles game....
For me the pinnacle of fun in UT is actually playing with everyone who is on a high level and competitive. It's a very different game to those who have mastered it. To those who aren't that great at the game, I'm sure playing casually suits you for iggles of giggles too. If UT is done right, it will be competetive again. Will it take legions away from war shooters? Probably not. It's a sci-fi shooter and the genre is niche and always will be.
Back on topic... the poster is friends with zEh or friends of zEh / hWnd then I have to chuckle. You guys know that dude is one of the most famous cheaters / hackers in the game who has sabotaged many a online games, compromised servers, etc?
Back on topic... the poster is friends with zEh or friends of zEh / hWnd then I have to chuckle. You guys know that dude is one of the most famous cheaters / hackers in the game who has sabotaged many a online games, compromised servers, etc?
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I have "mastered" the series in various capacities so no need to pretend that you understand better than me what UT really is. It IS a very different game when you become competitive though you are right about that - notice I didn't say otherwise. But I've played in both capacities and in hindsight it wasn't worth getting into competitively, as it ruins it for being anything else when you're done. I mean, what is the point where you can easily beat any one of your friends, it kind of loses its charm for pubs. Some people enjoy playing the same maps on pubs day in day out for a year just to flex their epenis, but it is extremely stupid and drives others away from the game.
I never acted or pretended like I understood better than you what UT "really is" as you put it. Notice I said FOR ME what I thought UT is. I was just making a general statement about a lot of people who HAVEN'T played in the highly competitive end. Try reading what I say before jumping to hasty conclusions.
Pity it ruins it for you, as I an still have fun pubbing even if its not always with people at my skill level if I'm playing with buddies and just kicking back. Though I don't do it to flex epeen, it's just harder for me to enjoy the gameplay style of any other fps as I do UT, regardless of capacity.
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Ah jeez.
I was trying to say Unreal North have been good friends with BU over the years. I wasn't implying any sort of relationship with anyone affiliated with this particular project.
I was trying to say Unreal North have been good friends with BU over the years. I wasn't implying any sort of relationship with anyone affiliated with this particular project.
Then the question is how do you feel about these people who are involved in the project considering their history?
Do I like cheating?
Well, no.
Look, I wasn't involved in any of the competitive scene other than occasionally writing a story about an event or reading an anecdote here or there so I know no specifics regarding the individuals involved. The name rings a bell, but that's all.
I ran across enough cheaters in my days pubbing to know that they're incredibly disruptive and annoying, but my UT experience centers more around fun and casual play, community events, and the creative side of the game - level design, mapping, modding. Not aimbots or cheats.
Same here.
The whole "pro" mentality gaming thing that grew up around the first few generations of online multiplayer (particularly since UT/UT2K4, Team Fortress, CS and Quake 3; think Punkbuster) I found pretty tedious.
Apart from aimbotting and cheaters you forgot to mention the planet wide griefing population..... yeah; boring.
I never acted or pretended like I understood better than you what UT "really is" as you put it. Notice I said FOR ME what I thought UT is. I was just making a general statement about a lot of people who HAVEN'T played in the highly competitive end. Try reading what I say before jumping to hasty conclusions.
It's a common vibe from those who play the series competitively that somehow you haven't really played UT til you've done so competitively. Your post was right along those lines.
I made a comment that I preferred playing for ****s and giggles. Your remark directly after was "To those who aren't that great at the game, I'm sure playing casually suits you for iggles of giggles too" - if that wasn't making an assumption about my experience, then it isn't my reading comprehension in question but your own ability to word things clearly the way you supposedly meant them.
It's fun both ways. Organized competitive games feel like you're participating in an intense cybersport. Teams are draft-picked, people get on voice comm, there are position assignments and plays to be made, etc. It's much better than playing disorganized games on public servers IMHO.