Your Most Memorable Moment on Off-Topic

[Delacroix]

You don't have any ideas worth taking, Leo, but that's beside the point, which is that if you didn't keep starting shit, you wouldn't get shit thrown back at you.

Sorry for continuing the derail, guys, that's all I'll be doing.

Here's the thing: you have no respect to people's "ideas" how you put it so your opinion in the first place is invalid. I still remember how you dismissed me as an "ideas guy", me being the writer of story, screenplay and dialogue for a quite big role-playing genre modification. Here's a hint: in RPGs, story and lore are just as important a factor as any technical section of the project. Try making a story-based project without a proper idea for the story itself. I dare you. And - while Leo's Unreal PSX rework is no RPG, it's certainly a story-based project to a much bigger extent than the base game was. Suffice it to say, there's actual character conversations involved - and they push the story forward in a more cinematic sort of way.

On topic of "being honest".

 

[Leo(T.C.K.)]

Thanks for backing me up, I thought I was all alone here.

Fact is majority of people wouldn't be interested in Resurgence if it wasn't for the extra content and quite frankly most of the base for the extra content came from me and my efforts.
Fact is, he wouldn't even include some of the stuff if it wasn't for my requests, like he included whatever he sent me in "LeoStuff", which included the fixed Fan1, the skaarj mask deco (my request again), the reanimated hawk and the alpha araknid from Unreal 2 alpha. The decorations use in general was solely my idea. At that point early 2015, he didn't even plan including them.

Yet, I was universally flagged as the guy "using resurgence stuff" for his project, when the story is a little more complex. It was meant to be a cooperation. What it turned out to be was very different.

Alca also acussed me of only reusing code and bla bla, but that's exactly what he's been doing most of the time. His araknid simply extended class spinner, there was no real code involved or anything. On the other hand my upsxdragon, I wanted to make sure it's not simply just a warlord modification like his was...and codex turned it to perfection with those new projectiles and all. In that sense even the masterunreal's original dragon was much more original while staying close to the ideas.

Resurgence is not a historical project on top and it doesn't try to be in line with original ideas or upgrading them to the level of the final game, no, it goes much further in creating very different experience.

So, after all, who is in position of judging whether something is bastardized or not? It's definitely not alca.

 

[dotnetbeast]

WTF are either of you talking about?

 

[Leo(T.C.K.)]

About that someone has been spinning up the facts for quite some time and it hasn't been me.
EDIT: Apparently masterunreal hasn't been credited in the resurgence readme despite the gibs for the dragon being from him when he remade the original model in scratch in milkshape which took a lot of effort. He did all the code and meshes himself while I only provided sounds.

 

[Balton]

WTF are either of you talking about?

Really this sums it up :

You're not being attacked, Leo, you're being held accountable for your truly awful posting habits. If you weren't so horrible, people would be appreciative of a lot of your efforts.

And let's be honest, there was never any Unreal 2 expansion to be released. You were just going to have other people do all the work on whatever you had in mind. That project isn't going to fail because of what anyone here says, it's going to fail because it's a niche within a niche, and nobody cares enough about Unreal 2 to be willing to deal with you.

 

[Delacroix]

No, it's a bunch of slander.
- never any Unreal 2 expansion to be released - basically debunked by the source we have contacted.
- others doing all the work for Leo - oh, that's rich. Given he's been debugging the maps of Unreal PSX like crazy, partially doing coding work, filling in story gaps (with me) and as of late he also started working with models. He did because... NEWSFLASH - AlC stopped helping because he feels so hurt that he's actually needed for a project and his time is so precious he has none to spare. If there is a new restoration project thanks to recovering new resources, then of course some of the community modders could help but if that's their attitude, that's pretty much why projects keep being cancelled left, right and center. Nobody wants to be a one-man army doing all the work!

That pretty much sums it up.

 

[Leo(T.C.K.)]

Thanks, really. That so much warmed me up. You're the only person truthfully jumping to my defense right now. Given what I've done to other people and how I wanted to help so many, it's actually shocking that nobody has done so before.

I've become cynical over many years, at times even delusional. Is it surprising though? Given all I have to go through and given that I've been practically erased during which time, surprisingly people like alca had the least problem with me? When I was so low and was complying with everything I was told even if it was the greatest lie in the universe?

At OU I kept trying to help people whenever there was a problem, instead I saw my help being hijacked and someone doing the research to get the credit for himself. Ego reasons and jealousy. Just like I did before. At some point I do loose the respect and I start posting videos like crazy. My OffTopic stuff was always an escape, an outlet all while I had a busy and difficult life, all while I had worked on the project and retexturing and debugging the maps and piecing it all together. It all takes an enormous toll on me. I have no income, but one of the reasons why I don't is because I refuse to cheat, or because someone ends up rejecting me for what I stand for. And because I don't feel like asking for help if I'm then being called parasite by so many people. I simply abandoned it all at some point. Had enough of all the pressure.

Enjoy this post because this is one of my first "truly lucid" moments in a while. This is the truth.

And don't get me started how much physical pain I had and have to go through. To the point of supressing it so much often. Most of my upper teeth are gone, not due to neglect but due to genetics.

I'm feeling so tired and weak suddenly, I cannot do too much of work at one go or I basically shut off. I have to do it in careful steps.

Yet I do my best. But that's not enough. It never is. People abuse it. All of it. And I get way less than all the others.

 

[NeoNite]

Leotck, if you make one more slimey bitchy trollpost I'll delete all your content from the ut/unreal forums. I'm fed up with your bullshit.
Only warning.
You've said you'd leave twice and didn't. Third time's a charm. You've outlasted your welcome a long, long, long time ago. Go play the victim somewhere else.

Now let's get back on topic, if that's still possible. Dotnetbeast had a real good idea for a thread imho.

 

[Manticore]

Leotck, if you make one more slimey bitchy trollpost I'll delete all your content from the ut/unreal forums. I'm fed up with your bullshit.
Only warning.
You've said you'd leave twice and didn't. Third time's a charm. You've outlasted your welcome a long, long, long time ago. Go play the victim somewhere else.

Now let's get back on topic, if that's still possible. Dotnetbeast had a real good idea for a thread imho.

How about we all put him on our ignore lists? Each and everyone who want to see him gone will not even know what he's posting and he can kill the forums all by himself.

You get the odd whiny bitch who defends this troll but everyone else should blacklist him.

 

[dotnetbeast]

Want to thank you all for derailing the thread.
Mods, you can close this.



Fuck y'all.

 

[MakeMeUnreal]

I remember bein' helped out by both Cal. and Leo.
I think it's okay to argue over thinks, be an @sshole as long as it doesn't "endanger" any kind of Unreal content. Deletin' all of his posts would.

Ps. Resurgence was awesome. Kept replayin' it for days. Same goes for the PSX conversion. Thank you guys.


Since I am pretty much a new guy 'round BUF I may say that my most favorite moments are these. Readin' dem BUF veterans stories. Haha. Educatin' myself in terms of BeyondUnreal Forums.

 

[Balton]

Want to thank you all for derailing the thread.
Mods, you can close this.


Fuck y'all.

While I agree with you this also made me remember one of the most pointless discussions in off topic "How can you stay on-topic in off-topic?".

 

[Derelan]

The moment (time span) when the Infiltration mod was in its prime.

Psychomorph I miss you.

 

[Hadmar]

When we convinced a homophobe that homosexuality is not a bad thing. With arguments. Yes, you read that right. That was many years ago in Inf-OT.

 

[gopostal]

That's kind of sad that someone changing an opinion after a good debate is the high point after years of discussions. If only people would allow themselves to be swayed by a compelling argument and not summarily dismiss things out of hand on principle alone. We'd be a better society if there was more of that.

No homo. /s