XMP is coming to UT2004! - Free Monkey Interactive Announces UT XMP

[Sir_Brizz]

So now all of a sudden it's bad to expect a game to work? Personally, I don't feel like I should have to spend more time setting the game up so it works okay than I do playing it.

Worf and I are both saying that UTXMP is a GOOD THING because finally the game will have support and they will be able to work out some of the bugs. Plus, since they aren't doing it as a job getting paid by someone, they will be able to add whatever content they want. I personally think that Skaarj vs. Humans like the game was supposed to be originally would rock. And having female models. And turrets that don't disappear every ten seconds. And guns that shoot more often than they don't. And so many other things that I would have liked fixed in XMP that just never happened.

 

[PF Prophet]

I hear lag is an issue in a game, and its your connection, not the game itself? hmmm interesting theory....whats ping? oooooooo

yeah crazy stuff huh

well to be honest xmp is a little worse then some other games for ping but in my exp not any worse then most in acctul lagg spikes

if the server side was optomized a little better i think it would help some but really i get same lagg in most games but with better "ping"

myself i think the ping thing isnt accuret except to track lagg spinkes after they alreaddy are happening

 

[PF Prophet]

So now all of a sudden it's bad to expect a game to work? Personally, I don't feel like I should have to spend more time setting the game up so it works okay than I do playing it.

Worf and I are both saying that UTXMP is a GOOD THING because finally the game will have support and they will be able to work out some of the bugs. Plus, since they aren't doing it as a job getting paid by someone, they will be able to add whatever content they want. I personally think that Skaarj vs. Humans like the game was supposed to be originally would rock. And having female models. And turrets that don't disappear every ten seconds. And guns that shoot more often than they don't. And so many other things that I would have liked fixed in XMP that just never happened.

m8 most games in my exp benefit from some manual tweaking xmp is just a little more sencitive to it thats all

oh and the guns shoot more then they dont for me so i duno what ur on about maby you need a new mouse ???

its not bad to expect the game to work but its bad to expect the game to be perfect nothings perfect ut2k4 acts like a dirty rotten whore on 4 systems we tested it on and it wont hold settings you make changes to manual via the ini files
you cant tell me thats better then xmp where at least when you edit an ini it acctuly holds the edit :O

and part of what you said about support could be true if epic/atari where gonna make sure the patches for ut2k4 also work properly with utxmp but i SEIROUSLY dought thats gonna happen

as to them being able to add/change anything they like well hate to have to say it AGIN but thats part of what bothers me they can toatly fuk the balance up by changing how each wepp works how much damnage it dose

by adding new wepps/classes/items that arent balanced properly its like anything else they can toatly fook it up with some "minor" changes

yeah skjaar classes/teams would be koo but not at the expance of balance

i would also like to have seen some of the other races/classes from u2 in xmp but there not here why probbly time constrantes (those fem warriors in the heavy armmor where koo)

but then agin you would have to spend ALOT of time balancing each new thing you add/change to make the game decent then after all the changes its nolonger xmp its at best xmp2 at worse some kinda farce based off the idea of xmp

 

[Saito]

LMFAO you think xmp is the only game that dose that **** your lucky i have most games do crap like that you know what i do click agin if that dosnt work i click agin and then if that dosnt work i try running thru the wepps (some times quick wepp changes fixes this in games like xmp)

think of it as if ur gun jammed and your fighting with it to get the jam out makes the game more real (trust me on this one i have had guns jam it dose happen and yes its a pain in the ass)

So I justify the gun not shooting because of a bug, as it just jammed... errmm no.

So then if the game crashes and blows up my comp, I justify it as XMP nuked me.

EDIT

I know its because atari dropped the project, but that doesn't mean its not there.

 

[PF Prophet]

So I justify the gun not shooting because of a bug, as it just jammed... errmm no.

So then if the game crashes and blows up my comp, I justify it as XMP nuked me.

EDIT

I know its because atari dropped the project, but that doesn't mean its not there.

its a bug what i said is that i think of it as a jam and tome it makes sence

and if the game crashes and blows up ur pc and nukes you well serves you rite for rankin on it so hard and long paybacks are a bitch like yo mamma (j/k)

 

[Saito]

Bleh,

The problem was the game got dropped. Yeah it was funny at first when I got crap fps, the tanks got stuck in the sky, and my gun didn't shoot amid the mirriade of other bugs.

What drove people away was that they realized these issues weren't going to be resloved without a patch, and when legend got canned all hope of that went out the window.

Bugs are funny the first 20 or so times, after that it just get's old.

Hence the whole "diamond in the rough" issue.

 

[PF Prophet]

saito you are just lazy


funny even with an 8500 card i was pulling 35fps at 1280x1024 after tweaking could have been over 40 if i had wanted to lower some more settings

as to but buggs man i have games that where finished and went gold with as menny issues as xmp has granted some of them are more suttle but others are far more anoing

also what drovepeople away was listening to people like you bitch and moan and diss on the game then tell them its dead over and over people are for the most part stupid and if hey hear something over and over they beleve it

and shooting get over it i have it happen maby every 20 games i play whoopie thats sure alot

 

[Saito]

I tried every damn trick here

http://ina-community.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=262048

nothing worked

And yes lots of games go gold full of bugs, thats what patches are for.

 

[PF Prophet]

yeah but im talking about games that went "gold" like unreal gold where buggs still excist in numbers

i got a bunch of games like that some are fun others arnt none of thats due to the buggs but its due to what i feel like playing

there are lots of tricks some that seem to make zero sence at all but work

 

[PF Prophet]

saito look for my xmp lagg and fps help try the cheages i made in that see what you get you can mix and match peaces from them bouth i looked at that link and it dosnt cover all the changes i have found that help

 

[Dead_Metal]

u know that support for XMP? hmmm looks like they gave up on it to make UTXMP. There is your support. - neways - any bugs that they "fix" is anything that THEY MAKE. Being that XMP is not a part of 2k4, and is being MADE BY THEM FOR IT. So there is no BUGS yet. Besides, I believe that the whole skaarj, female models and games such thing was already planned and mapped for XMP via cXp, ty. You don't want to play XMP u want to play something similar - like with artis and class based, with every 2k4 weapon? hmmmm so why don't we all be rangers with a rocket launcher if thats what your emplying? but w/e - u don't look at the situation u just complain about it, and u are not helping to radify it. GO UTXMP guys, we are here to hlep - cXp staff.

Oh and if you didn't know, there is in the works a new mode for XMP - just look at my avatar ^.^ - *wink nudge grin* ja ja - I'll code it myself :}

 

[Sir_Brizz]

u know that support for XMP? hmmm looks like they gave up on it to make UTXMP. There is your support. - neways - any bugs that they "fix" is anything that THEY MAKE. Being that XMP is not a part of 2k4, and is being MADE BY THEM FOR IT. So there is no BUGS yet. Besides, I believe that the whole skaarj, female models and games such thing was already planned and mapped for XMP via cXp, ty. You don't want to play XMP u want to play something similar - like with artis and class based, with every 2k4 weapon? hmmmm so why don't we all be rangers with a rocket launcher if thats what your emplying? but w/e - u don't look at the situation u just complain about it, and u are not helping to radify it. GO UTXMP guys, we are here to hlep - cXp staff.

Oh and if you didn't know, there is in the works a new mode for XMP - just look at my avatar ^.^ - *wink nudge grin* ja ja - I'll code it myself :}

WTF are you talking about?? I want the exact same game as XMP is now in UT2k4. I don't want 2k4 weapons or vehicles (just their code) or anything else. I want a 100% port without the bugs.

 

[W0RF]

I wouldn't mind seeing the 2K4 tank, for example, or the 2k4 bus, but there's no way a 2k4 turret can hold a candle to the winged turret in Lowlands, or the roundhouse turret, those just kick ass.

Maybe a mixture of those turrets with the Link Turret and the Ion Cannon from the Levi as a turret... man now I am drooling...

 

[Sir_Brizz]

: P~ Ion Turret in Grasslands....... : P~

 

[Euphoric Beaver]

Are any ex-Legend peeps working on UTXMP? Or even getting input from them?

 

[takwu]

Ok, a few things I needed to clarify.
By saying "no fault in the design" doesn't mean the turret detached from vehicle is a feature in the design. It is NOT part of the design. It's a bug. Surely I want it fixed.
As for short matches. Yes it's part of the design. XMP is a game where strategy plays a big role. Experienced players can and do pwn new players. Just like in any RTS, you do not expect to stand a chance the first time you play against someone who played the game 500 times. The short matches are usually due to a big difference between the collective experiences on each team. The key word here is "collective". If you want longer matches on pubs, balance out the teams. If you lost a game too quickly, someone on your team have a few things to learn from someone on the other team, trust me.
Now back to the point I was making... "no fault in the design" was referring to things like the behavior of the vehicles, like the spin outs, the harbi tip, etc. Also things like the weapons, classes (please no new class, please). They are just fine IMO, so I would like to see them left alone.
However I am not necessarily against new features like vehicles and stationary turrets. If done right they can retain the balance while giving the game freshness.

 

[Dead_Metal]

Can't fix something if it doesnt' exist yet. They can't do an exact port, or haven't u learned to read anything that was said earlier or in their very post? They aren't making a 100% exact replica/clone of XMP for UT2k4, its going to have similar features but its not outright XMP on 2k4.

 

[Saito]

Can't fix something if it doesnt' exist yet. They can't do an exact port, or haven't u learned to read anything that was said earlier or in their very post? They aren't making a 100% exact replica/clone of XMP for UT2k4, its going to have similar features but its not outright XMP on 2k4.

thank god its not exact... this might save the game at this rate.

 

[PF Prophet]

saito STFU and leave if you dont like xmp you say you like it but every fooooking word you post is nothing but comments about how ****ty xmp is

get the fook out of here if you cant do anything but say how ****tttty the game is

 

[MÆST]

I replied to this thread to wish the devolopers good luck. Unfortunately, in replying I also subscribed to this thread and therefor have been alerted by email every time someone posts crap (which, as it turns out, is 99% of the time). Time to unsubscribe.