XMP is coming to UT2004! - Free Monkey Interactive Announces UT XMP

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flo0tz

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JEEZ stop complaining and get over it, what is so bad about xmp for 2k4? It will only make it better...
And stop complaining about the bots, theres more than just bot servers out there, there are hundreds of other servers. Besides, they wouldn't even throw in the 2k4 bots, that would just be dumb, they are for on-foot fast paced combat. Theres such things as making your own bots.
The UT2k4 engine is so much better too, with so many possibilities, you guys dont know what you are talking about. And another thing, if it doesn't have the XMP 'feel' go play XMP for crappy U2 and shut up, cause NOBODY CARES.
 

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JEEZ stop complaining and get over it, what is so bad about xmp for 2k4? It will only make it better...
And stop complaining about the bots, theres more than just bot servers out there, there are hundreds of other servers. Besides, they wouldn't even throw in the 2k4 bots, that would just be dumb, they are for on-foot fast paced combat. Theres such things as making your own bots.
The UT2k4 engine is so much better too, with so many possibilities, you guys dont know what you are talking about. And another thing, if it doesn't have the XMP 'feel' go play XMP for crappy U2 and shut up, cause NOBODY CARES.

clench.. unclench... clench.. unclench..
 

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ok let me clear this up for you guys and ive then this throughout this thread.

Unreal 2 and UT2004 run on the same ****ing engine.

there are minor differnences and tweaks but none is far better than the other. if u dont blieve me head on over to http://udn.epicgames.com/Powered/WebHome and see for youself
 

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a question for the Free Money team: will the original assets developed for the UTXMP TC be made available to non-FMI mappers, so the XMP mapping community can continue to grow as well as the community of players?
 

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ok let me clear this up for you guys and ive then this throughout this thread.

Unreal 2 and UT2004 run on the same ****ing engine.

there are minor differnences and tweaks but none is far better than the other. if u dont blieve me head on over to http://udn.epicgames.com/Powered/WebHome and see for youself

Yes, but the development of the engine forked when Epic took the engine for UT2003/2004 and Legend took it for Unreal 2.

Both are the same base at some point (I don't know the exact build number) but they are different. Ie. GOLEM is the animation system used for Unreal 2 which is not present in UT2004.

Yes, same, but not equal. U2XMP is not well optimized, it could've been but another patch or two would be required. Which isn't going to happen courtesy of Atari.
 

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This will sound noobish but i just dont know, can they just port over alot of the models, textures and meshes to re-use in this conversion? I just would like to see alot of the same XMP material into UTXMP to give it the visual feel of the original.
 

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up until reading about some recent reported statements by Epic employees, i was always given to understand that use of art assets, code, etc., across game titles was verboten, even within the Unreal family of games. perhaps things are loosening up a bit.
 

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Huurah for the superlong posts that most of the people don't read,jeez and i thought that only mantik had long speeches,to the monkeys,just do what you wanna do,you are all xmp players and know what to do to not ruin the xmp balance,it's a hard edged rough diamant now,make it a jewel. Oh and 2k4 vehicles do suck,hail the raptor,hail the juggernaut,hail the harbingers horn.
 
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Mantik

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Huurah for the superlong posts that most of the people don't read,jeez and i thought that only mantik had long speeches,to the monkeys,just do what you wanna do,you are all xmp players and know what to do to not ruin the xmp balance,it's a hard edged rough diamant now,make it a jewel. Oh and 2k4 vehicles do suck,hail the raptor,hail the juggernaut,hail the harbingers horn.

Blame the job, not me. And I've been trying to keep them short, honest :(

Oh and this Harbinger's horn fetish is scary :eek:
 

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(repost from another thread -- sorry if you read it already.)

UT2K4XMP is the only chance 2K4 has to get me to buy a copy. But no guarantees.

I look forward to the release, but expect it to be a while.

I doubt it will play like XMP to the letter -- it's just too hard to make a clone from scratch assets. But I think the feel will pay homage with the same classes and weapon loadouts. This is fair to the original vision.

It will certainly lure all remaining XMPers over to the 2K4 version. But that does not guarantee there will be that many left: good new games are coming out all the time: Farcry, HL2, ... unknowns.

There will be new players from the 2K4 crowd, and probably more players overall than XMP has now.

I think it is a worthwhile project. Good luck.
 
i feel a great distrubance in the force.....er i mean the XMP community. i think your underestimating this project. just look who is doing it, and that gives me hope. there all very mature, well a few are, and they know what they are doing. i wish them luck. maybe they will get a job doing something else for the Unreal community. O wait, MS is taking over Unreal games now. NM.
 

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O wait, MS is taking over Unreal games now. NM.

That's a partnership and distribution thing. The only thing to come out of that so far is Championship 2, which thank god they seem to have a decent idea of what to do this time around.

MS isn't buying Epic.
 
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That's a partnership and distribution thing. The only thing to come out of that so far is Championship 2, which thank god they seem to have a decent idea of what to do this time around.

MS isn't buying Epic.


dude, it's MS. soon they will buy out all the wal marts, im sure they will try to buy off Epic, they think there god or something. all i have to say is Epic, i swear to you this, if you even consider letting MS buy, you....May god have mercy on all your souls.
 

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It's not necissarly a bad thing for microshaft to publish for epic... I mean come on I am sure you aren't that happy with atari at this point.
 

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It's not necissarly a bad thing for microshaft to publish for epic... I mean come on I am sure you aren't that happy with atari at this point.

You just like to take the opposite stance against everyone, don't you?

Atari I may have issues with in games, but I don't have issues with their games, OS, hardware, software, and marketting. You see, there's more to hate of M$. And when a company is that big they can stop giving a damn about every little customer. Atari doesn't like to give a damn either, but they're starting to realize they have to. Of course, this is entirely my opinion.

-Myr
 

Saito

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I doubt I am the only one that doesn't think its a bad thing.

I may have issues with Microsoft made products (yep they have dropped some real lemons) however not with them as a publisher. If have played plenty of microsoft published games and have no gripes with them in that role.

It would suck if MS bought them... but as a publisher I don't see the harm.
 

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I've haven't posted on this thread yet , but theres alot of reaction also some very good points on both partys . Myself I'm an XMP diehard , to me theres not a better game . I own UT2K4 also , I've played it a few times . It just doesn't catch my interest like XMP , UT2K4 isn't a bad game though .Now I have a few worry's about this port, gameplay wise . The servers will be better , thats a given , as far as support - who will give it ? The only ones I know are in this community . This game is a nightmare for Atari will they support it ?The only one that gave this game a fair shake was Mark Rhein at Epic games . I think for those of you that want this should give a thanks to Raptor and the rest of the guys and also Mark Rhein . Right now like I said I have my worry's , but I'm gonna feel it out and see how it goes , that's about all we can do .
 
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