It was only a few months ago that Tim/Cliff said no more UT games for "several years"
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Will there be another UT?
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The question Id be askin now is, does Epic have 2 full game production teams or 1&1/2? If People can fly are workin on their thingo, Epic has got a support team on GoW2, the engine team are hard at work as always and theres steam pickin up on a GoW3... Wheres the other team? Designin the next UT I hope, couple of yrs isnt very long when we look at the time between UT's in the past.
It takes a couple of years to produce a game like UT3. So if they're talking about it being shelved for a couple years that means they would start working on it in a couple years from now, then 1-2 years of development time. The next UT will be released in 2013 at the earliest would be my guess.
That also makes sense if they are tying the release to the next major version of the Unreal Engine which is being designed for the next generation of consoles (PS4, Xbox3, whatever) which won't be out until 2013 at the earliest by most guesses.
Yeah thats what I was getting at. Mind you designin the game isnt a quick easy task, it could take awhile (who knows how long cliffyb spent on GoW). Production could take acouple of years easy especially in that age of even higher detail graphics demand.
I do have the feelin some of the GoW2 gamemodes were around in prototype before GoW hit the shelves and the same might go for GoW3 stuff. I cant help but think the same for bioshock 2 and MP.
I guess by then 'from the studio that brought you GoW' might not mean so much to the 'next-gen'. 2013 is a solid estimate, 1999-2002-2004-2007, even if they start now I think 2013 might be too soon unless by then Epic can afford to dedicate their whole crew to a UT title. It does kinda deserve the attention if you ask me, not so much in it needs work but it could use a fresh approach with plenty of hands to pull it off in full.
Really?! I would think that when Gears3 comes out, it will mean even more. Hell, Epic is more famous for making Gears1/2 now than they were for making any of the UT games.
It does deserve so, but probably won't happen when Epic is busy developing games for an other franchise
. Some people are going to say I'm wrong and there is no basis for that, and I'll admit to it when I see Epic developing a PC-centric game (at this point I'm just going to make it easy and not even say PC exclusive).
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Yeah one would assume youre correct but I did put alittle thought into that one, I didnt just blurt it. See youve assumed everyone who owns a 360+GoW|GoW2 or a PC+GoW will own a platform in the future that Epic will develop games for. Not only that but theres people who bought GoW before even having played a UT game, some people bought UT3 without ever having played GoW.
Im glad that came from you though not Epic, one could think its alittle big headed to make those types of assumptions. Not only that but its bad marketing, if apple didnt advertise to people who already own apples+people who dont then everyone would still be using the original ipods.
Heres another one, we dont even know if the future consoles will be backwards compatible. If they are fully backwards compatible with all previous ones, then they are getting into PC territory and dont deserve the name. Gaming Box might be a better term, or blue chip risc media platform, plenty of those around from a ****load of third parties (some just have better support than others).
I still find the irony to this day that it was IBM pc and they battled to keep it afloat, now they are at the centre of its demise in terms of the AAA gaming platform of choice.
It does deserve so, but probably won't happen when Epic is busy developing games for an other franchise
Im sure gamers who prefer their non PC platforms might appreciate what that has to give if you ask me. For so long they are being spoon fed the same garbage we are, somethings gotta give eventually. If I was payin the premium that they pay I would NOT like a patch in the first month to fix errors/bugs/oversights with a retail game, let alone have to pay ONTOP of the ISP to download the fraggin things.
I just dont see why they cant!
Looking over the last set of NPD figures on gamasutra I think it was, everything across the board was down. Im blaming the death of duke nukem forever, people just finally gave up hope
You flood the market with **** though and yeah, people will buy the cheap **** not the expensive stuff. Sure theres plenty of half decent **** out there but theres also a tonne of overpriced garbage to go with the hidden underpriced gems, thats not takin into account freeware. Slap a 2 on it and its **** 2, it doesnt make it not **** same as **** num 4 is **** squared.
All I would do is urge developers to not make **** especially the same ****, I would ask them to make sure they can see the **** through (buy a magazine its a long ride). If they get stuck half way through ****, then perhaps more fibre is in order not a fresh toilet roll. Meh, I lost myself... must be all the ****!
So what? Use proper long-range counters until they realize that using one gun exclusively is a very bad tactical decision. Limiting the functionality of a weapon (which can screw you over in a tight spot) just because some people are "annoying" with it is really dumb.
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No its unfair and unbalanced! We gotta think about bad players when designing a game.
Unless Epic close down, there really is no reason why Epic won't develop for a platform with the highest amount of user.
Yes it would be bad if Epic had said it on the record, and they probably never will. They will probably act in a manner similar to how MS "tries" to "help" PC "gaming" with GfWL.
The definition of a console should still be applicable, as long as its a system that requires a gamepad to play its games and allows zero modability of its games.
Well a lot of people do things differently, like enjoy gaming on a different platform. I think as long as day one patches are excuted quickly and flawlessly, people are not going to complain when they see the pop-up for downloading it.
I say this with no offense, but that whole reply is slightly incoherent.
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Actually, I'd rather Epic don't make another UT.
It's obvious to me that the market for arena shooters is so small nowadays that they'll end up gimping the game to such a degree that we might as well drop it.
Unless this generation of gamers grow some cohones and learn that not all of them are superpro, UT isn't going to work.
Let's just put it this way:
UT3 was a good game (in it's patched/titaned form), but as a sequel to 2k4 and ut99 it was disappointing enough to make me switch to the Quake camp.
That should say enough.
It's obvious to me that the market for arena shooters is so small nowadays that they'll end up gimping the game to such a degree that we might as well drop it.
Unless this generation of gamers grow some cohones and learn that not all of them are superpro, UT isn't going to work.
Let's just put it this way:
UT3 was a good game (in it's patched/titaned form), but as a sequel to 2k4 and ut99 it was disappointing enough to make me switch to the Quake camp.
That should say enough.
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Oh dont get me wrong its not a dig at patches, they are very useful tools. I do remember a time when console titles were less prone to errors than PC games though and that was before this whole certification process that seems to hold back console releases/patches.
Best bet is to get it right first time around instead of making sequels (1)
None taken, I was tryin to make some kinda point and if you take the time to work it out then you deserve to know the answer. No Offense ofcoarse
Think of it as a cryptogram, perhaps we can replace the ****'s with game
(1) which is what I was trying to say here. Im sick of getting half a game when developers can just add a two. Same could be said for hardware, one thing with PC is its always been PC not PC2 PC3 PC4. Its a constant evolution and I believe that patching software is much more rewarded on that type of architecture then that of (I'll say consoles) which stagnates for 4-6yrs after the high point of 2-3 after release.
Its the same with games, some series just end up stagnating. I mean hell quake couldnt get past number 3 without it going full circle to 0 lol
There is times when you need to let things go and move on but its better for the fans/consumers if you actually complete the product up to the quality you said you were going to. Otherwise you wouldnt mention it right?
See one thing I saw in the past that I see very little these days is offshoot franchises, of which UT is actually one. GoW doesnt have Gears of Hoola or Gears of Yarly, Unreal has a game an engine and a full multiplayer component. If Epic wanted to call it GoW engine I dont think Id complain as long as I can keep on moddin PC but when your brands start conflicting it can cause issues.
From the studio who brought you Gears of War published by Microsoft using Unreal Engine on the Microsoft Xbox 360 Powered by Unreal Technology.
I dunno, it just seems like Epics head is in the wrong place. I dont blame em for backin up cliff, GoW has it moments thats forsure but I do believe its overrated like CoD4 and Bioshock. I just hope this doesnt have any dramatic effect on their engine department, Im sure theres plenty of good UE games to come in the future, there might even be one or two that are up there with the best. If you ask me though Epic should strive to be a leader when it comes to UE games not settling for letting someone else take the prize, I cant help but think their commitment to a single platform in terms of games development will hurt them in the long run.
Unless ofcoarse they announced a GoW pack for PC or PS3 I didnt hear about.
A question, how many developers from the start of the MP FPS era still make games for PC?
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