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Use of Acogs in Real life?

Discussion in 'General Infiltration Discussion' started by ANUBIS199, Feb 27, 2002.

  1. ANUBIS199

    ANUBIS199 New Member

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    Did a search and couldnt find anything on this, what is the Acogs practical application in the U.S. armed forces. I wouldnt think it would be issued to grunts for cost reasons. Nor would I think sniper teams would want it because of its smaller calibar (m16 mounted) and limited range compared with a real sniper rifle. So what is its use in the U.S. armed forces, is one issued to one man in each standard squad somewhat like the M203?

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  2. bastardb

    bastardb New Member

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    well im assuming it would be chosen not so much "Assigned" because if you assinged it to the wrong guy he would probably suck with it
    more asssumptions:
    they wouldnt take it for missions in small enclosed places
    they wouldnt have more then a "few" with an acog in a team or else thered be a concern for lack of close quarter awareness
     
  3. jamsr

    jamsr PIMP and AA:O Beta Tester

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    Advanced Combat Optical Gunsight.The first two words of the name should explain its use.Its not an average everday item that common soldiers get to use.If im not mistaken Infiltration is based on Special and Elite Forces not just your average everyday army.
     
  4. shadowkil

    shadowkil New Member

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    IIRC, St0rmcaller has previously stated that USMC issues one per squad, and Tiffy has sad that in the U.K. armed forces every line infantryman gets one.
     
  5. Grunt11Bravo

    Grunt11Bravo [AFA6]

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    Issued to a platoon or squad's designated marksman or sharpshooter for certain situations, most notably Military Operations in Urban Terrain (MOUT) or Civil Disturbance (CD) - this being mainly the National Guard's role rather than Regular Army but it still applies to Regular Army.

    Some sniper or scout-sniper teams issue the spotter an M16 equipped with an ACOG or an AN/PVS4 NVS. Dependant upon their unit SOI/SOP (standard operating instructions/procedures) or TOE (table of organization & equipment).
     
  6. bastardb

    bastardb New Member

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    wow al of them?

    is it less of a zoom then the ones in inf? cause they seem to go as far as psgs to me.....almost
     
  7. Grunt11Bravo

    Grunt11Bravo [AFA6]

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    I believe Tiffy was referring to the SUSAT. Same concept as the ACOG, think the zoom is 1x or 1.5x? Ask Tiffy.

    And yes, all of them get it. It's built onto that funny little green and plastic toy thing they call a gun. ;)
     
  8. bastardb

    bastardb New Member

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    does that mean they all cant aim? or they all just like to engage at 1.5 the distance of regular military? haha
     
  9. St0rmcaller

    St0rmcaller [AFA]'s unoffical godfather

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  10. bastardb

    bastardb New Member

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    man thats a sweet bipod i want

    can ya get one of those for anything?
     
  11. Grunt11Bravo

    Grunt11Bravo [AFA6]

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    Those kinda look like 3-9x Unertl rubber armored scopes....but I could be wrong.

    **edit**

    Upon further inspection of said photo: they're not rubber armored scopes, but they do look like they're 3x-9x variable power scopes...maybe even 4x-12x. Those look like modified or improved Harris bipods... are they?
     
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  12. shadowkil

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  13. bastardb

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    haha he talks about how it hits him in the forehead....
    yep.. we ALL should be running around firing it on burst

    seems like the most logical thing to do
     
  14. Dupre

    Dupre Code Pimp

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    Looks like the improved swivels by Harris.. SLM model?

    bastardb: And yes, you can get them for anything. Just buy the correct adapter for the gun.
     
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  15. shadowkil

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    /me pictures a bunch of new fangled kit (ACOG, bipod, m203, muzzle brake) on a Garand.

    That's just wrong =b
     
  16. Ishtvan

    Ishtvan Because it's cooler than "Steven"

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    So are ACOG's used more in MOUT simply to identify targets when you have a bunch of non-combatants running around or is it because there are lots of urban sniper positions you could be threatened from or what?

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  17. Gholam

    Gholam Sergeant (Reserve), IDF

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    Around here, ACOGs are issued to designated marksmen, one per platoon, mounted mostly on 14.5" barrel M16's, sometime on full-lenght ones. Their job is to provide accurate fire at longer distances while operating with their platoon.

    Russians use SVD for basically the same job.
     
  18. Tiffy

    Tiffy Back to champion the L85

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    SUSAT is a 4x optical scope, with a nice little pointer illuminated by a tritium source at night instead of the cross hairs in INF. The reason its issued to every line infantry soldier is that the British Army tends to engage at longer ranges than most armies and also tends to accurate markmanship as apposed to weight of fire to neutralise enemy forces.
     
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    grunt, you fudging blarghole, you screwed up the quote in yer sig! its grunt=shrubbery ;)
     
  20. Gryphon

    Gryphon Weapons Tech

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    All Canadian infantrymen are issued C7A1 automatic rifles with flattop receivers and Elcan sights. They are also fitted to all the C9 squad automatic weapons. Iron sights are still made available for all weapons.

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