Some serious issues..
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I think the only people that restrict themselves to one and only one game type are the ones who refuse to play TDM, not the ones who enjoy playing it.cracwhore said:
geogob said:
Sorry but this 'as real as it gets argument' has been used once too often...
As long as we are using a mouse and a keyboard realism is a ****ing compromise! And I m not even talking 'gameplay' or 'balance' here.
Example: A real life soldier is able to run a lot faster/longer with just a pistol than somebody wearing IIIa, Assaultrifle, Nades and a Pistol... not in INF. Unrealistic? On the other hand if you could run 1000m at full speed with just a pistol we would have even more rushers and less teamwork. So realism would be lagging in a different department.
Its not like SS inplemented a laser sword! AT equipment is used by real soldiers, so one can argue having it is a step into realism... Players shoting at each other and abusing it is the downside of this. I don't say the way they released it is perfect but this shouting 'TRAITORS!!!' everytime somebody finds something not in line with 'as real as it gets' is so odd...
Mostly its the players and the server admins who decide how the game is played.
/ not meant to offend you geo but I think you are blaming the wrong ones /
Nukeproof's comment is the one out of line here. The Inf team have always been dedicated to realism, with gameplay coming in a meagre second. Of course there's a limit as to how far you can go, but that's no excuse not to push towards that limit.
The AT-4 was simply implemented to give an example of what could be done for an anti-armour objective. Heck, they included the UT rocket launcher as an example of a weapon, and nobody's complaining. However, neither of these are implemented in a realistic manner, neither are meant to be used against infantry, and as such neither should have a place in the common soldier's loadout.
The AT-4 was simply implemented to give an example of what could be done for an anti-armour objective. Heck, they included the UT rocket launcher as an example of a weapon, and nobody's complaining. However, neither of these are implemented in a realistic manner, neither are meant to be used against infantry, and as such neither should have a place in the common soldier's loadout.
Nukeproof... i'm not talking about flaws in the realism of infiltation (there always will be some), to the fact that that game still needs keyboard, monitors and mouse... I'm talking about the creator of this game pushing realism on one side and taking a step back on the other side.
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Crowze said:
Making the AT4 a map depandant pickup thing would have made general absusing impossible and thereby could have been the better approach.
But having it in the armory can still be fun vs. bots in fungames etc. without anybody beeing affected badly. (and thereby is a -bonus- to anybody who wants to use it). I just disagree with the point, that re-implementing it is the end of realism in INF (hence my example... well I admit its little inappropriate here - sorry about that)
Injustice?
1. Huge bulk
2. Relatively small radius of explosion
3. Carrier has good chance of dying
Also, boycotting does not seem like a good solution... Boycotting of buses was done by Martin Luther King, Jr. and other members of the NAACP; boycotting of British salt was done by Gandhi and others in India. Boycotting is done when there exists an injustice .
Has SS committed an injustice by releasing the AT4?
The AT4 is not that bad... let's look at the facts and opinions of others:
1. Huge bulk
2. Relatively small radius of explosion
3. Carrier has good chance of dying
Also, boycotting does not seem like a good solution... Boycotting of buses was done by Martin Luther King, Jr. and other members of the NAACP; boycotting of British salt was done by Gandhi and others in India. Boycotting is done when there exists an injustice .
Has SS committed an injustice by releasing the AT4?
