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Adelheid

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No no, all I did was take it to a point where you didn't agree with your own argument. ;)

As to why people care, well that's part because we are humans and we live in a society. Therefore whatever goes on in that society affects us in some way, so we care.

You mean you took his nicely worded argument and put it in plain English. ;)

And why do you think it sounds stupid in plain English?
 

Lizard Of Oz

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:lol: Right, so your reading compression skills all of a sudden went to zero again? What a pity.

Constitutional experts disagree with your sad misinterpretation of the document.

OlsonBoies.jpg
 

Larkin

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The comments page of the same issue at the prestigious The Economist
http://www.economist.com/node/16743792/comments

Nick the first isn't right there. Circumventing the people has been done several times in the last 100 years. Its not about acceptance, its about time, the public education system and going routes that can't possibly be overturned. With time and teaching your view at the schools you will gain acceptance. Its never going to be perfect because brainwashing is never perfect, but it will work well enough.
 
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Benfica

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Nick the first isn't right there. Circumventing the people has been done several times in the last 100 years. Its not about acceptance, its about time, the public education system and going routes that can't possibly be overturned. With time and teaching your view at the schools you will gain acceptance Its never going to be perfect because brainwashing is never perfect, but it will work well enough.
I don't care about this particular discussion, I didn't spend more than a minute reading. What I mean is that the Economist - both articles and comments - is very influencial and worthwhile to follow
 

Larkin

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I don't care about this particular discussion, I didn't spend more than a minute reading. What I mean is that the Economist - both articles and comments - is very influencial and worthwhile to follow

But that is what this is basically all about. I know its the same old discussion, but it basically the same old thing.
 

Lizard Of Oz

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Can I put up random pictures of experts too? Try reading the quote of the admendment you posted and think what is being abridged. Ok?
Those two "random" experts are GOP sweetheart Ted Olson and David Boies (president of his college's Young Republicans).

Both are renowned constitutional lawyers. Working together, and armed with the 14th Amendment, they successfully challenged "Prop 8".

So your misinterpretation of the 14th Amendment means nothing to me. I've read it many times, and agree with the experts; it is absolutely applicable.
 

Larkin

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Those two "random" experts are GOP sweetheart Ted Olson and David Boies (president of his college's Young Republicans).

Both are renowned constitutional lawyers. Working together, and armed with the 14th Amendment, they successfully challenged "Prop 8".

So your misinterpretation of the 14th Amendment means nothing to me. I've read it many times, and agree with the experts; it is absolutely applicable.

Republicans mean something different to me than democrats? ok?

And that wasn't an answer, btw.

Its as applicable as the commerce clause giving the fed the right to regulate business. Meaning, its not applicable.
 
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TWD

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I contend that polygamy leads to other more complex legal issues such as medical power of attorney. Of course we could turn marriage into a complex legal negation and contract signing ceremony to compensate.

Otherwise I'm cool with polygamy. Let it be.

Well I don't really see why it becomes an issue. Most of the issues you've described such as medical power of attorney could be solved by only giving that right to the first spouse to marry that individual.

Still this is all really besides the point. The gay marriage issue is one about social change, hence why domestic partnerships don't solve the dispute. Polygamy is completely different. Those practicing polygamy in the US don't care about social change or legal rights. They wouldn't care if the state recognizes it or not. They just don't want to go to jail for practicing it.