Planet Unrealm - Notes, etc.

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Wolf: Well, i figure wolf + ram....fox + lamb....;) I'm not entirely sure I follow PMB's thought line...but i think he and i had two different goals to your character (isn't that just so funny? =) Being that he has posted already, i'll bow out... I'll think of some new solution to my own problem. It may involve my taking some slight liberties with Asteph/B'var's plans? I dunno just yet (the infinite realm of possibilities is vast; i need only to pluck at the proper path. Just as there are many dimensions [worlds], there are also many alternate dimensions [variations on this universe/world]...It sounds kind of like the current Wolfram is from an alternate/past? Or it could be that Foxlam is a fail safe/back up for Wolfram? or there really IS a wolfram of our universe that she is looking for? I'll figure this out....=P )

Hal: There are four characters in the Southern Lands, removed from the main adventure... think of them as a mini story happening at the moment (it's a really long introduction and character background build).

Garrison - Martial Paladin from the Southern Territories, a collective of several kingdoms on a separate, but land-connected continent to the south of the main group. Just follow my last few posts to find out about him... my last 3 posts or so have been about him, and his history and such.

Maetsro - Leader of the Martial Paladins. He brought Garrison to the Territories when Garrison was a baby. Maestro was already a one-armed man then, and appears to not have aged. He is a tutor to Garrison first, and father figure second...their histories are intertwined in a way unknown to Garrison just yet.

Alita - Warrior-Priest. Alita was an Imperial Guardsman for a race known as the Kreeghor... as such, she was subjected to mutative cosmic energies and biowizardry. She became a supernatural-level person with control over Jade (creation, manipulation, and transformation into energy) and flight... and a little more yet to be revealed. Her life span has been lengthened tremendously, and she has spent a long time on the Unrealm... it is peaceful, compared to her home dimension. 'Priest' is only a convenience for explaining her more fantastic abilities. She will remind Garrison of 'Rose'...I am tempted to Make Garrison color-blind, since all heroes are always perfect =P =) "gold coins, copper goins, what's the difference?"

Calibretto - War-Golem. Many years ago, the Southern Territories faced a great threat - one their armies and magics could not deal with. In response, the magi created the War Golems... Autonomous, sentient war machines with immense destructive power. However, once the war ended (decisively, by means of legions of the war golems), people began to fear the power of the Golems...and so began to destroy them. War Golems were persecuted, hunted down - even though they were completely loyal to those people who created them and whom they fought for. No more than a dozen are thought to exist, with as few as 3 being likely. Calibretto ran into Alita, and they have travelled together since. War Golems function as if sentient living beings (they have feelings, irrationalities, can develop ideas, and so forth) but are ultimately mechanic (they are vulnerable to lightning, electromagnetic pulses [knock them unconcious - no memory wiping =)], need to be repaired). War Golems were created in a day of unparalleled Magic and technology, and perhaps even interdimensional trade... all War Golems have a Nanite factory inside them, which see to various basic needs (eg: cleaning out dust)...these nanites are also able to create more of themselves as needed, convert basic materials as needed (create grease, oil, metal [very small quantities]) and effect repairs... in this case, they swarm over a metal source, such as an anvil or suit of armor, devour it, and use the raw materials (converting to other materials if needed) to repair damage. This also takes quite a bit of time and non-movement. It also allows his arms to reform into different weapons.

Foxlam - Sister to Wolfram. Or is she???.... Wields Thor's Hammer (or similar equivalent...may not be Thor's own hammer =)

Clael - Evil Villain dude who made Garrison kill his wife-to-be on their wedding day. About to bite it hard. He is a Monk/mage... He is looking for the ultimate body to inhabit, and he believes Garrison's silver form is it. Able to possess bodies, he has changed appearance many many times. He has once taken over a mage, and has some knowledge of magic. He currently has taken the body of a Bulky-strong fighter.

Ink - Perverted evil villain dude, also about to bite it hard. His body is translucent grey...and underneath that is a blood red color. He controls the shape of his body, and has powers of 'shadow' such as shadow blasts, dark wave/devouring, shadow slide, etc. etc. It doesn't really matter, he is going die =)

Bulgrim - Evil Djinni/Efreeti. Imprisoned within a bracelet, which was discovered by a grave-robber... who was compelled to put the bracelet on. Bulgrim could careless about getting revenge on Garrison; he is looking for a pure soul to sacrifice so he can get out of the bracelet.

The Southern Territories are a little more advanced than the rest of the world (?)... they do have technology, such as guns and machine guns (straight, iron ball-type projectile weapons) but these all require an energy source "mana" to work... mana in this case comes in cells and almost seems to have been condensed into liquid form.
 

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geez, i forgot. I'm going to be quiet for awhile, pretending to study and stuff... super busy next few weeks, but it will all be over next week-tuesday =P all over one way or another =P I may however finish the cliffhanger i stopped at
 

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WARNING THERE IS A FINAL FANTASY 7 SPOILER IN HERE

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PMB, maybe we can do it like this... Wolfram (my version, the guy Foxlam is looking for) is a different person. He either is dead, or in another dimension (caused by your Wolfram entering the Unrealm). Basically, I was thinking of doing it Like In Final Fantasy 7... if you don't know this already, i hope you aren't going to hate me... But Your WOlfram has mental blocks, and isn't who he thinks he is...but he woke up with this equipment (either it was left for him, or all that's left of Wolfram who helped him) and thinks he is Wolfram (eg: Squall isn't a SOLDIER 2nd class... it was Zack... but in his memories, it got jumbled and suppressed, so that he took on Zacks past when Zack died helping Squall and him to escape... and Zack had given Squall a spare set of his own clothing...)

What do you think? It might take some minor reworking of yours (that is, rename him...or introduce a second warrior taken from Unrealm that IS wolfram...and pair them side by side, but somehow the better guy dies fighting the HIM (who is this Him person anyway?) and wolfram is left lying elsewhere unconcious... and that's why he has these suppressed flashbacks and stuff....

Anyhowzers, I'll follow your lead, but leave a note in here if you want to do that way, or if you are feeling more secretive, leave me a e-mail

and the funniest thing? It's Wolf's character, not either of ours =)
 
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Intruiging :D
Two Wolframs could get kind of confusing, maybe have Foxlam as the adoptive sister? (Wolfie rescued her whilst travelling in the south land - hell he could have lived there for bloody ages, but then got hit on the head again and forgot stuff :D) How he ended up on the Northern continent I have no idea, but I'm sure you or Wolf could come up with something.

Reading Wolfs post it seemed he liked the idea of having "Wolfram" having survived the battle with HIM (that was lost due to Asteph messing up) and then "walking the earth" (LoneWolf/Conan style) righting wrongs,etc for the last 15,000 years whilst losing the majority of his memories every couple of hundred years when he gets his arse kicked real good *cough*Nameless One from Planescape*cough*.

Lets see if I can make this a bit clearer.

Current year (just for the benefits of trying to make some sense of this) is the year 0, i'll use the notation BP (Before Present) to distinguish the years before that (like "BC").
At the start of the story Wolfram had obviously just woken up from getting his arse kicked so had lost most of his memories again. Maybe we could do it that he does slowly recover his memories, (in flashbacks), but with the oldest memories first.
In this case one of the first flashbacks he had, was the one of the Order of the Iron Eagle mounting an assault on the enemys castle, (this was when he was about ....ummmmm......mid twenties, about 5-8,000 years ago, or 5000 BP).
During that assault he was ...errrrr....abducted by "aliens" :D to 10,000 years earlier (15000 BP) to fight the earlier war (*cough*Babylon 5 and Sinclair*cough*).
This failed (thanks to Asteph'theroc failure - which I'll explain probably some time next week after everyone else has posted some more stuff (hopefully after Hal and Khaine have been brought into the story by WAnks character going to scout out the port they've just docked in, as well as some other stuff that WAnks working on (Assassin/thief guild stuff was the jist of what I got from WAnk when I talked to him the other day)).
Since that failure Wolfram has been fighting bad guys, travelling the world etc, haunted by the gaps in his memories, yet convinced that there was something, some greater purpose which he was meant to be doing. So he's got a lot of scars :)

Whilst he is human (well originally anyway), he's now something slightly different. Wolfram had posted that his character had some sort of supernatural powers (which he had no idea how to use yet). I just took this a step further by mixing the past I had created for Asteph'theroc race with Wolframs past, and thus giving a possible explanation of how Wolfram got his (still unknown and undescribed) powers by having B'var the Firstborn (who I probably won't mention again, except maybe in passing) put something inside him, transfer some type of power into Wolfram when B'var died (that "tenuous link" to the weave that was mentioned).
Whether there is any of B'vars' consciousness locked away somewhere in Wolframs head again I have no idea, it all depends on whether it will add anything funky to the storyline and Wolfram (and everyone else) thinks its a good idea. I just put it in my post because I thought it seemed a good read, fitted in with the other posts and opened up lots of different plot hooks people could use.

As regards who HIM is, I've no idea :D
All we've got on HIM at the moment is that

1) HE's responsible for Asteph'therocs race disappearing "somewhere" 15,000 years BP

2) HE's responsible for Wolframs original homeland (where the Order of the Iron Eagle was) disappearing somewhere (maybe the same place) about 5000 years BP. This was slightly aided by B'var pulling Wolfram back in time. Whoops :D

3) HE has physical manifestations of himself (sort of like the standard AD&D "avatars") which inact his will on the world - Asteph'theroc is thinking Khaine is one, unlucky him ;)

As soon as someone comes up with a definition of the ultimate evil post it here and we'll refine/argue about it. As I stated before I believe the best type of evil/nemesis is the one that no-one knows about/is indescribable right up to near the "end" of the story. Maybe if people even knew HIS name they'd either go nutz or convert to HIS side (without even knowing!).

Regarding Asteph'theroc you might have noticed that I post fairly infrequently about him, but when I do it's bloody long. Part of the reason for this is due to the way my RL job works in time commitments, the other is that due to him being kind of powerfull I'm trying to limit the way he interacts directly with the others.
When I've posted, rather than having my character running around with the others killing lots of monsters I've tried instead to give some of the characters a shared history and a general direction to the story, as well as leaving lots of bits unexplained to either explain later once more is known about the characters, or when someone else comes up with a cool reason. This IMHO makes it a lot easier to write parts for the thread.
I'll be working on another "normal" character once I've got the history sorted out on Asteph'theroc (next big post I'm working on, which could either be Asteph'theroc reminiscing or a Wolfram flashback, involves the fight against HIM 15,000 years BP and how/why Asteph'theroc screwed up and they lost).

Hoped that helped.
 

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My theory about the ultimate evil thingy was connected to the fundamental processes of things.
Essentially, I was thinking of HIM as being someone who was attempting to stop death. Not just cheat death for himself, but actually stop death for everything. Sort of like The Farthest Shore (3rd Earthsea novel). This would of course totally mess up the flow of the weave, and generally cause much ructions.
Of course, other people probably have other ideas...

Oh, and I *will* be working on deeper characterisation for all of my characters, (all 4 of them once I decide on the name for my chief Scry-prince), once I get the huge mound of end-of-term work out of the way...

Finally, I will try to be around in IRC or something so that I can actually talk to people about things at some point (though I don't use IRC much really, and I refuse to use ICQ for bizarre reasons, so email is probably the best option...).
 

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PMB: how about this...let's hold off on posting about WOlf's past (unless Wolf does his own thing =) until thursday? I have final exams until tuesday night, and I imagine i will be out that evening...and i work pretty much all day wednesday...with more partying and drunkeness that evening...so thursday looks to be best. SOund good? I dunno about the time wandering thing... sounds a little to much like Gilgamesh and Endiku of Sumerian legend (which was nice in it's own right...but kinda weird i guess). I'd like to do the FF7 style crossover...and I'll figure it out in more detail later, but i'll post in notes before i do anything.
 

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Damn, I love this, the plot thickens and twists at the same time. What's more, Cammy seems to have stopped posting, w00t! :D

I was going to have Wolfram pick up a new sword, stroll around the slums, maybe get into a bar fight or two, and meet with a "seer" who turns out to be an outcast Drow priestess/mage (sounds familiar, huh?) and recover another chunk of his memory.

I was going to have a little more of the Empire of the Iron Eagle revealed, but suffice it to say, HE somehow managed to send it into another plane or dimension after losing to Wolfram, but taking advantage of Asteph'theroc's screwup and murdering Wolfram's family in the process, HE was able to send himself to be reborn in the future(now in the Unrealms.) It is also possible that all the strongholds of the Iron Eagle are in the same dimension as Asteph'theroc's people.

It also seems that Isis and Freyja are gone forever, as Trinity was in one of her bad moods after seeing them treated as idiots by Cammy's posting, and she said she's probably not going to post again. I'll certainly try to talk her into changing her mind.


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Funky.

Hey Wolf, if you want to work on the battle when Wolfram was still 100% mortal and only in mid-twenties (the assualt on the fortress by the Order of the Iron Eagle) - which ends up with Wolfram disappearing right at the very end (abducted), i'll work on the first (chronologically - though not chronologically for Wolfram :D) battle (and bits leading up to it) in the past which Asteph'theroc ballsed up (some training - maybe some hints at some powers WOlfram might have as well as the actual battle itself).
I'll leave it hanging at the "end" bit when the cockup happens - big explosion/whatever - so you and Jing can do some stuff on what happened from then (Asteph'theroc went searching for Wolfram for a couple of decades, but didn't find anything, so he eventually retired to the tower where he was in the very first post about him that I did).

WAnks got some finals at the moment so he hasn't posted yet so do Hal and LK want to start getting some interaction going between each other in this other city?

Don't have a name for the city yet, but it is the capital city of the country Daryethia (WAnk refered earlier in the Unrealm thread as crossing back over the Daryethian border) and is a major port (otherwise you wouldn't have been able to dock :D).
Maybe the city could be called Daryeth?
It has a very powerful thieves/assassin guild, but this is only something the locals would know (not hal2k01 or Khaine) and they're highly unlike to tell other chracters about it (they're scared :D).
Mirya (WAnks character) is a member of the guild and one of her main reasons going back there is to report back to the elders (Asteph'theroc don't know this - he thinks she's going into scout out Khaine for him).

ummmmm ... thats it for now - I'm off to work on the next update :D
 

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finals done, i am going to start posting again :D

first off, here were my intentions for the thieves guild. I still don't know what i want to call it, i will figure it out :D Most people in the organization don't know anything about it. it gives the appearance of a small organized crime circle. most of its members basically act as spys in various cities. the truth is, the thieves guild is really funded by they Darythian crown (sorry to be so cliche, but i originally meant it to be a royal assassins guild. it was turned into a normal thieves guild at some point, so i want to kind of merge the two :)) anywho, internal structure is very simple. there are a select few who know the real purpose behind the guild. Mirya is one of them, mostly because this is necessary knowledge for the jobs she does. the guild is overseen by one man, who is kind of an enigma. not many know who he is, for his safety. the leader, at the moment, is one of the daryethian princes. only the king, and a select few members of the guild actually know this. if any of you want to know where i am coming from here, think a cross between the Drasnian Spy Network from the belgariad/mallorean and whatever the hell the thieves guild from Raymond Feist's riftwar/serpentwar was called. mr. quicksilver is not a member of the guild, though he knows of it for the sake of continuity. he never yelled out to mirya in s'mon traska. this guild is very hush hush. if we have random people walking around talking about it, then it loses its mystery :)

the guild recruits children, and only children. absolute loyalty is required. the new recruits are trained vigorously and secretly, only coming in contact with one or two guild members, and never told anything about why they are their or what they are doing. the children are primarily run aways, and are screened before the training begins to weed out the obvious losers. after some time acting as messengers for the messenger service acting as the legitimate business front of the guild and performing staged burgluries (the kids don't know they are staged), those showing the best qualities are given apprenticeships in the guild. they are assigned in squads for training, taught to work together, and how to be a proper guildmember. they recieve their mark, a fox head tattoo on their chest below their left shoulder. once apprenticeship is reached, the only way out of the guild is in a casket. once finished with their apprentice training, they become full guild members and receive an assignment. their are guilds in several major cities in the western realm (lets say it is west, i forget honestly :D i can edit this post if we are somewhere else). so yeah, blah blah, i described a pretty standard thieves guild here ;) should come as no surprise
 

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WAnk did you ever read the Detahgate cycle by Weiss and Hickman?

They had an assassin guild that had a ranking system according to the arm.... the lowest was the blade... then hilt... then handle... blah blah blah second highest was the Hand...and the highest was the Arm (something like that)
 

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I've thought about completely restarting. But then, that last post was really good. PMB has created "The Force" in fantasy games, it seems. This should make for some good character developement and interaction, especially for an otherwise average fighter-dude like Wolfram.


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another charater

i have started to read through the whole story from the begining but im not finnished reading through the whole thread.

i have thought of adding another charater to the RPG namly Xadhoom (yeah thats name of the charater i have stolen my nick from) now there is a problem that se is originaly a wery sientific person but i have thought of remaking her to a wery powerfull magical creature, she will be able to change apperance between two distinct beings, one she is have a human form wering clothes and have green skin (and crystal green eyes) while in this shape she will be able to use powerful defence spells which could benefit others as well. In the other shape she will change to a (also) human like creature but with a body temprature way above normal for humans this will make any clothes she wears to burn up this is no problem for she because she is imune to fire(and she alters her form so much that she isnt in need of any clothes to shelter her apperance (as a girl)) while in this shape, She will also have powerfull magical attack (though only one type of attack which basicaly is in form of fire), and she will (in this form) also be wery fast, able to somewath control her jump(much longer jumps then normal humans) through air (i.e. she can stear where she would land)

she would not be able to instantly change her form between the two but it would take some time. changing from her normal form (i.e. the green form) to the more agressiv form takes normaly 1 min(if she does it any faster she might lose control of the magic resulting in an enorums blast consuming her and any creature in a large area) transforming back would take a much longer time (because she need to calm down the chaotic magics that works within her body while at the aggressiv form)

i would like her to be a neutral creatur though the second of the to shapes might frighten others so that they take her for evil an attack before asking anything.

if anyone dislikes anything in my ideas for this charater please let me know...

im planning to make the first notes from her to be form her diary... (this will also explain what that has enable her to change forms)
 

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I missed this post...

Well, I was reading the PRG story thread (all in one day) and I admit I skimmed a few of the last pages. After I posted a little something to it I see this thread thanks to Xahdoom (?) posting to it.

The story was going really well at the begining, and even soe of Cammy's posts were OK. However, it was obvious that something had gone "wrong" somewhere in the middle. Again I had not read this thread to understand the deal.

I see a lot of BG2, Diablo II, and other RPG games in the story.. which is not a bad thing.

I would like to make one or two observations:

1) The god thing has a place in the story and can work well as evidenced by the Paladdin. Even Chun-Li and her God were acceptable at first. The "Norse Gods" thing did make it suddenly unrealistic in terms of the "world" being created. So good call on getting that out.

2) Too many plot lines that are extremely unrelated makes it very hard to follow, especially when the posting concerning them is intermitten and infrequent.


I just found the thread yesterday (Jan 17, 2001) so I am not entirely sure if you guys are still bothering with it. It will be interesting to see.

I have a neat idea (at least to me) but I am not sure you will like it necessarily. However, for the meantime I would like to keep it secret so as not to ruin the enjoyment of reading the story. I will discuss the details with the character(s) it affects at a more appropriate time.

I will try not make any character act out of character or say things out of character, but as stated before, you have to have some leway to make the story make sense.

So go read what I added and see if anyone has any problems with it.
 
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