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OO7MIKE

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The great thing about working with a model is they can actually model. Someone who has little experience or idea on how modeling is done are difficult to work with. Oh boy does it take a lot more energy and time to obtain just a fraction of the keepers you get with an experienced model. Yeah it can be difficult especially if you are trying to build a resume with your work.

Part of your job is to help your model get over self confidence issues, or at least just the ones that would make her feel shy with you in the room. Break the ice, help her get through it. Specific compliments about her cloths, hair, make up, legs, or body shape will get you far. Just be professional and dont spend too much time talking about it. Rotate your topics and ALWAYS compliment her when she is doing something right. If they feel like you're hitting on them.. they will shut down completely. Women tend to put themselves down in front of you just to fish for compliment. This is a perfect time to give bold compliments without repercussions. "Are you kidding? You look damn sexy in that corset!"

Yes I have to admit working with curvy girls is more challenging than the skinny ones because your not used to seeing really good photos of curvy girls. Skinny naked girls have been drilled into our heads. There are a few specific poses which look more flattering for curvy girls. As long as they are willing to work with you and your not giving them strange looks when a pose doesn't work out so well.. you should be fine!
 
Thrash123

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OO7MIKE said:
The great thing about working with a model is they can actually model. Someone who has little experience or idea on how modeling is done are difficult to work with. Oh boy does it take a lot more energy and time to obtain just a fraction of the keepers you get with an experienced model. Yeah it can be difficult especially if you are trying to build a resume with your work.

Part of your job is to help your model get over self confidence issues, or at least just the ones that would make her feel shy with you in the room. Break the ice, help her get through it. Specific compliments about her cloths, hair, make up, legs, or body shape will get you far. Just be professional and dont spend too much time talking about it. Rotate your topics and ALWAYS compliment her when she is doing something right. If they feel like you're hitting on them.. they will shut down completely. Women tend to put themselves down in front of you just to fish for compliment. This is a perfect time to give bold compliments without repercussions. "Are you kidding? You look damn sexy in that corset!"

Yes I have to admit working with curvy girls is more challenging than the skinny ones because your not used to seeing really good photos of curvy girls. Skinny naked girls have been drilled into our heads. There are a few specific poses which look more flattering for curvy girls. As long as they are willing to work with you and your not giving them strange looks when a pose doesn't work out so well.. you should be fine!
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I really pushed the bubble boundaries with her. First few sets were done clothed (that first shot is the second pose we did), but we had a few different outfits. My friend told her she could go back into my bedroom to change, but I told her "No, you're changing out here in front of me. Gotta make sure you're good and comfortable being naked in front of me before we shoot the nudes". That actually worked out really well, as opposed to the last nude set I did (featuring the chick on my website). Her nudes came out pretty well. I wish I could share em'.

Anyway, for any regular shots, I'd say, "here's a great one" and show it to her on-cam. We did that for about 30 shots, I'd tell her what I liked about it, and what I'll probably do in post. More importantly, however, I'd share what I wouldn't need to do in post, telling her she's doing this well, or her body is perfect in this aspect and won't need any extra work (I frequently find myself having to fix eyes, not so with this girl).
 
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I really like that one too. I noticed how the footprints overlap, then spread apart, the overlap, like they are telling a story of the journey of those two people. Also notice the faint flock of birds flying over the tree rising out of the mist.
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Thanks :) Glad you noticed the birds. I was trying to edit it to make them stand out more but it ended up looking too edited.

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I think you did a good job :) Seeing the same "perfect" airbrushed skinny girls in the same poses, devoid of personality (mostly in the media) gets boring quickly. The hoodie isn't that flattering around the bust area, it looks kinda baggy at the sides. Maybe a thinner material or slightly smaller size would work better?
 
OO7MIKE

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I finished up with my Christmas themed shoots last weekend. I worked with a girl who had never done modeling before. She was stiff as a board, very nervous and I had to give her a lot of coaching. I still got some pretty good shots considering.


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Now I'm off to plan my Valentines day shoot. So many ideas!
 
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More snow

View of the River Gryffe I.

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View of the River Gryffe II.

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Bridge over the River Gryffe I.

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Bridge over the River Gryffe II.

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Kilmacolm Old Kirk from The Cross.

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OO7MIKE

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I got a 7d for Christmas. Santa helped a bit but stuck me with most of the bill LOL. Thank you Best Buy and your 18 months interest free credit.

Preliminary tests so far are great! A lot more features than my 40d. ISO 12800 reminds me a lot like ISO 3200 on a 20/30d. ISO 3200 is very clean. 6400 is fantastic and very usable. A lot of my professional photography relies on clean high ISO files so this is a win win.

Video features are very cool but until i have an outlet for it I don't think I will be of much use.

Viewfinder is a lot larger than the 40d. Not quite full frame size but close.

AF is really fast. Not quite 1dmk3 fast but it feels much faster and more accurate than my 40d.

Camera Raw files are HUGE! 20 - 30mb each! I've taken less than 50 shots so far so it may get bigger.

Only let down so far is that it wont shoot 8fps if lighting conditions are dark.. even if you are in manual mode and AF is turned off. I'm not sure how dark things need to be but I hope this doesn't interfere with my dance photography. Its why I went with this camera and not the 5dmk2. 8fps rules!

I'll post some shots as soon as I have used it in the field.
 
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OO7MIKE

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das_ben: Just some helpful advice. Take it with a grain of salt if you wish. Your photos need some post processing. Gotta give them some oomph! The shots are all underexposed and the blacks are faded. To make a shot pop you need both a rich black and a white.
 
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OO7MIKE said:
das_ben: Just some helpful advice. Take it with a grain of salt if you wish. Your photos need some post processing. Gotta give them some oomph! The shots are all underexposed and the blacks are faded. To make a shot pop you need both a rich black and a white.
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Perhaps instead of telling him to use post, you should be telling him to take pictures with correct exposure first. :p
 
OO7MIKE

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haha, well we all make exposure mistakes, I'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt. The shots seem consistently 1 stop under exposed. I'm not sure if that was intentional or his cameras exposure compensation got stuck at -1. Either way some post production work should help.
 
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My D300 doesn't reset it's exposure comp when I restore settings, so I've been on the end of that before. :c

What I've started doing is bracketing and it's actually been really useful for certain types of shots. I never felt that I needed it before, but now I'm using it a lot.
 
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I've been meaning to post these for a while (since last February:)).

This was taken outside the Royal Observatory at Greenwich. Just behind the wall is the International Date Line (GMT).

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This was taken in Kingston on Thames:

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Various aircraft shots from the Imperial War Museum:

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Some from the British Museum foyer:

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And from around the Albert Memorial:

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I like Das_ben's photos, I don't think they need "oomph" or whatever, they're sort of simple and dull. It's different than normal stupid photos.
 
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OO7MIKE said:
Just some helpful advice.
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Much appreciated, as I'm obviously still a beginner. I know my photos suffer from underexposure, but that's mostly from an unreasonable avoidance of overexposure on my behalf. Additionally, I am very lazy with post-procession, which is a) not helping, but b) just how I roll. I'll try out bracketing though, as I have never done that before.
 
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