New Windows Viruses
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I know, Webby, but I get tired of seeing just how many people are luz0rz, never using up-to-date virus protection (or Linux). It's a waste of everyone's time and resources. Also, I wanted to make sure you knew that I'm not slamming Windows, per se, but promoting the use of Linux if people are just too lazy to run AV software. Besides, Linux is fun!
We had over 1400 virus emails today, zero infections. gg Norton Enterprise, gg AVG (yes, we have that installed on work PCs as well as a secondary 'gateway' for virii to have to pass...)
Webby, I love ya, man. You're one of the best people in our community, period. Talented m0fo, run a great server, and play a helluva violin. I have nothing but the utmost respect for you. C'mere, lemme give you a hug!
Pete
-BeyondUnreal
We had over 1400 virus emails today, zero infections. gg Norton Enterprise, gg AVG (yes, we have that installed on work PCs as well as a secondary 'gateway' for virii to have to pass...)
Webby, I love ya, man. You're one of the best people in our community, period. Talented m0fo, run a great server, and play a helluva violin. I have nothing but the utmost respect for you. C'mere, lemme give you a hug!
Pete
-BeyondUnreal
WebSlinger said:cmon Pete ya know I didn't mean that to come across as a flame.
And, if someone is too lazy to run up to date AV, you think they'll have the presence of mind to be a linux user?
yes every broadbander should have a firewall... but that's just not the case.
By the way... we got over 500 virus emails
none of them infected anything
gg self-updating McAfee Enterprise 7.1 :tup:
gg self-updating servers
I use VirusScan and ZoneAlarm. I checked my mail last night and had 3 viruses, but RoadRunner caught them before they even got to my computer so VirusScan never saw them either. That's pretty cool that they do that. Do most ISPs do that these days?
heheh
My wife and I do a very modest job at providing local residential tech support for Windows Users. I agree 100% with what QA Pete said above. There is a huge responsibility for computer owners to maintain their equipment. It goes beyond just not having antivirus, or a firewall... it hits at the heart of being lazy and ignorant when it comes to the technology we have brought into our homes.
A huge KUDOS to QA Pete for mentioning AVG on the front page.
Lets go one step further and say AVG and Ad-Aware by lavasoft. Both free apps can be easily downloaded, both offer free online updating.
The last few people we have worked with to diagnose poor pc performance have had Mcaffee installed from when they purchased their pcs. See the icon next to the clock, then it must be protected, right? Except for the fact the computer is three years old hooked up to dsl with their ONE defense running two year old dat files on an expired subscription.
So far, the record is 700+ files removed through the combo of AVG/Ad-Aware.
Linux, Mac and Windows, not even gonna touch that... got too many friends on both sides fo the fence... hehe. If it plays UT it must be good.
http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php <-- AVG
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/ <-- ad-aware
My wife and I do a very modest job at providing local residential tech support for Windows Users. I agree 100% with what QA Pete said above. There is a huge responsibility for computer owners to maintain their equipment. It goes beyond just not having antivirus, or a firewall... it hits at the heart of being lazy and ignorant when it comes to the technology we have brought into our homes.
A huge KUDOS to QA Pete for mentioning AVG on the front page.
Lets go one step further and say AVG and Ad-Aware by lavasoft. Both free apps can be easily downloaded, both offer free online updating.
The last few people we have worked with to diagnose poor pc performance have had Mcaffee installed from when they purchased their pcs. See the icon next to the clock, then it must be protected, right? Except for the fact the computer is three years old hooked up to dsl with their ONE defense running two year old dat files on an expired subscription.
So far, the record is 700+ files removed through the combo of AVG/Ad-Aware.
Linux, Mac and Windows, not even gonna touch that... got too many friends on both sides fo the fence... hehe. If it plays UT it must be good.
http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php <-- AVG
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/ <-- ad-aware
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Same here, I'm so glad I use an internet mail checker with a virus scanner attached onto it. Stop at least 90% of the viruses.
Also attacking OS's is pointless. You can argue and cry all you like, and you can be right. But what's keeping you attached to the OS you hate so much? Example, someone was complainng to me the other day that Windows sucks big time. Why? It was made by big bad evil Microsoft. So I tell him, go to Linux and stop your whinging. He refuses, why? Because he doesn't want to learn Linux ... what's the point?
WinXP is a fluffly OS out of the box yes. If you really want to tweak it and change it, it's all possible, but you've got to go out of your way and do it. WinXP is a public OS while Win2K was originally designed for servers as WinNT has been in the past. This is why Win95, Win98 and WinME exist. WinME is the worst OS I have to say but that is just me ...
Also attacking OS's is pointless. You can argue and cry all you like, and you can be right. But what's keeping you attached to the OS you hate so much? Example, someone was complainng to me the other day that Windows sucks big time. Why? It was made by big bad evil Microsoft. So I tell him, go to Linux and stop your whinging. He refuses, why? Because he doesn't want to learn Linux ... what's the point?
WinXP is a fluffly OS out of the box yes. If you really want to tweak it and change it, it's all possible, but you've got to go out of your way and do it. WinXP is a public OS while Win2K was originally designed for servers as WinNT has been in the past. This is why Win95, Win98 and WinME exist. WinME is the worst OS I have to say but that is just me ...
I would add that it doesn't matter what operating system you choose steps must be made to keep it secure. Keep your OS up to date, run an antivirus and firewall, and use common sense with email attachments. Another good idea is to turn off html mail "viewing".
I dont see how people can get infected through email...That is ignorance...like that Microsoft security update...my god...anyone with common sense should know you dont recieve those through Email...they pop up annoyingly until you install them....and where are the built in virus scanners like in hotmail through all of this?...Id like to know...
That leaves ignorance or stupidity. Pick one. There's absolutely no reason to not update your virus checker.Revrant said:
QAPete said:
Apparently my web-based email address has been sending viruses to people. The funny part is, I'm not infected. This means the address is being spoofed, and no virus checker in the world is going to stop this because I don't have the virus to begin with. So, since my AVG is up to date, I do NOT have a virus, and I'm still sending them, what would the problem be here?
ignorance and stupidity are one and the same so ... either...Money is a Fine reason to not keep things up to date.
stupidityRevrant said:
n 1: a poor ability to understand or to profit from experience [ant: intelligence] 2: a stupid mistake [syn: betise, folly, foolishness, imbecility]
ignorance
\Ig"no*rance\, n. [F., fr. L. ignorantia.] 1. The condition of being ignorant; the want of knowledge in general, or in relation to a particular subject; the state of being uneducated or uninformed.
Ignorance is the curse of God, Knowledge the wing wherewith we fly to heaven. --Shak.
2. (Theol.) A willful neglect or refusal to acquire knowledge which one may acquire and it is his duty to have. --Book of Common Prayer.
So as you can see, they aren't the same. Which one are you?
And there's the free AVG available at www.grisoft.com and the free Spybot Search and Destroy. And the free Ad-Aware 6. And the free Sygate firewall. So, where's the problem again?
oh shut up, the basis is the same, not an exact definition, dont insult me.
OH AVG Wow, I might get that and be blessed with Free Crap...oh and Free Sygate?...Dear God...as you know the definitions so well perhaps you've come to abide by them...theres a Reason things are free, because they are Lower Quality...I found 14 viruses with Norton 2003 that I didnt find with that damned AVG.
Ad-Aware Pro is wonderful and I have it and use it every single day, the problem pertains to money, once again, Quality, for Money.
OH AVG Wow, I might get that and be blessed with Free Crap...oh and Free Sygate?...Dear God...as you know the definitions so well perhaps you've come to abide by them...theres a Reason things are free, because they are Lower Quality...I found 14 viruses with Norton 2003 that I didnt find with that damned AVG.
Ad-Aware Pro is wonderful and I have it and use it every single day, the problem pertains to money, once again, Quality, for Money.
Sure the basis is the same: lacking knowledge. One is the inability to acquire it, the other is the apathy to acquiring it. You're one of these and I haven't decided which yet.
Well, sure, you get what you pay for, but at least they're better than nothing. And really, what do the paid versions do that the free ones don't? OOH if I pay for AVG's pro version I can schedule tests. Or, I can hit "run complete test" whenever I feel like it.
AVG is every bit as good as Norton. It's not they're going to say "oh well he isn't paying for it so we'll just make sure we leave some of these virii out of the definitions, that'll teach him". Great business acumen that would be wouldn't it?
I'm not going to say you're stupid to pay for stuff, no, whatever your preference is is fine. But at the same time if you're trying to make a point you need to do better than "Norton caught 14 viruses AVG didn't" with no proof of any kind.
Besides, it's not like AVG is the ONLY thing I'd run. I use AVG, Spybot Search and Destroy, Ad-Aware 6, Norton Utilities (ah there's one of them "not-free" programs), Sygate firewall, and I am behind a router. Very little happens without my knowing it. I don't think I could get any better protection by paying for all this.
Well, sure, you get what you pay for, but at least they're better than nothing. And really, what do the paid versions do that the free ones don't? OOH if I pay for AVG's pro version I can schedule tests. Or, I can hit "run complete test" whenever I feel like it.
AVG is every bit as good as Norton. It's not they're going to say "oh well he isn't paying for it so we'll just make sure we leave some of these virii out of the definitions, that'll teach him". Great business acumen that would be wouldn't it?
I'm not going to say you're stupid to pay for stuff, no, whatever your preference is is fine. But at the same time if you're trying to make a point you need to do better than "Norton caught 14 viruses AVG didn't" with no proof of any kind.
Besides, it's not like AVG is the ONLY thing I'd run. I use AVG, Spybot Search and Destroy, Ad-Aware 6, Norton Utilities (ah there's one of them "not-free" programs), Sygate firewall, and I am behind a router. Very little happens without my knowing it. I don't think I could get any better protection by paying for all this.
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