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Interesting, went on the internet and looked up the M16A1, and it says in the articles it is full auto. Yet the one I fired at Fort Hood was burst. There must be some that were modified by the military. Also in old Vietnam Field films you can see some of the soldiers firing 3 round bursts. Also in the movie, I believe it was Full Metal Jacket, in a close up scene, you can see one of the soldiers with an M16A1 pulling back the trigger, firing a three round burst, then letting off the trigger, and firing a three round burst again without letting off the trigger.
So there must be two versions of the M16A1. Also, I know that there is a modification that you can buy that gives you four positions. So who knows, there must have been some experimentation among the units.
So there must be two versions of the M16A1. Also, I know that there is a modification that you can buy that gives you four positions. So who knows, there must have been some experimentation among the units.
Logan6 said:For your information, the M16A1 in the US military ( you know, the guys that actually use it! ) is not fully automatic. It has three settings safe, semi, and three round burst. I know this, because I trained on it at Fort Hood Army Base. I also trained on the M203 there. Dont know about the old Armalite, I think it was full auto, but try finding an Armalite these days, maybe in a museum. Never have seen an M16A3 except in books. Think its just someones dream. Maybe you've been watching too many movies.They don't show much reality these days. As for the C7 don't know anything about it, some Canadian copy I guess. As for a full auto M16 type of rifle, I would go with the Stoner. Now please discontinue your pointless attack.
The US Army thinks you're a fucking moron.
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Logan6, I wouldn't argue if I wre you. These forums are full of freaks who know a LOT more about guns than you, and I'm not talking about airsoft here 
http://diemaco.com/ -> Products -> C7A1
From the Canadian Army website (some of this was listed on the diemaco site a while back too)
"The C7A1 Assault Rifle
The C7A1 assault rifle is an improved version of the basic C7 combat rifle, incorporating a low-mounted optical sight. It is a Canadian adaptation of a U.S. firearm known as the M16A1E1. The C7A1 eliminates the carrying handle of the C7 and substitutes an optical sight. The weapon is equipped with a 3.5x optical sight, which is mounted in place of the carrying handle.
C7A1 rounds are 5.56 x 45 NATO standard. The weapon has an effective range of 400 metres and a rate of fire of 700 to 940 rounds per minute. Along with the optical sight, optional attachments include the M203A1 40mm grenade launcher, the AN PAQ 4 Laser pointer and the Image Intensification Night Sight (Kite sight). It has been in service with the Army since 1986.
Armament:
Cartridge: 5.56mm x 45mm NATO
Rate of Fire: cyclic, 700 to 940 rounds per minute
Magazine: 30 rounds
Specifications:
Weight: empty - 3.3kg, full - 3.9kg (not including M203A1 grenade launcher)
Length: normal butt, 1.0 m
Barrel Length: 530
Operation: direct gas operated, air cooled, magazine fed
Range: 400 m
Entered service : 1986"
I'm not sure if anyone uses the A3 in particular but either way...
PS The M16A1 is full auto capable as is the A3 see http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/assault/m4/m4.htm and such for more. Perhaps you miss understood which version it was when you were training...
Edit: You know Januty I really think you need some Samuel L. Jackson quotes in .wav form so you can attach them to your posts and have everyone hear what you are saying... (like this http://www.ebaumsworld.com/sjackson.html)
From the Canadian Army website (some of this was listed on the diemaco site a while back too)
"The C7A1 Assault Rifle
The C7A1 assault rifle is an improved version of the basic C7 combat rifle, incorporating a low-mounted optical sight. It is a Canadian adaptation of a U.S. firearm known as the M16A1E1. The C7A1 eliminates the carrying handle of the C7 and substitutes an optical sight. The weapon is equipped with a 3.5x optical sight, which is mounted in place of the carrying handle.
C7A1 rounds are 5.56 x 45 NATO standard. The weapon has an effective range of 400 metres and a rate of fire of 700 to 940 rounds per minute. Along with the optical sight, optional attachments include the M203A1 40mm grenade launcher, the AN PAQ 4 Laser pointer and the Image Intensification Night Sight (Kite sight). It has been in service with the Army since 1986.
Armament:
Cartridge: 5.56mm x 45mm NATO
Rate of Fire: cyclic, 700 to 940 rounds per minute
Magazine: 30 rounds
Specifications:
Weight: empty - 3.3kg, full - 3.9kg (not including M203A1 grenade launcher)
Length: normal butt, 1.0 m
Barrel Length: 530
Operation: direct gas operated, air cooled, magazine fed
Range: 400 m
Entered service : 1986"
I'm not sure if anyone uses the A3 in particular but either way...
PS The M16A1 is full auto capable as is the A3 see http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/assault/m4/m4.htm and such for more. Perhaps you miss understood which version it was when you were training...
Edit: You know Januty I really think you need some Samuel L. Jackson quotes in .wav form so you can attach them to your posts and have everyone hear what you are saying... (like this http://www.ebaumsworld.com/sjackson.html)
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To Freon : Yeah, I guess if sat around all day doing nothing but memorizing Janes instead of actually firing some of the weapons I guess I would be an expert too.
As to the other morons, who have probably never shot a weapon in their life, they can shove their Janes books up their ass.
Hey, I researched and found that the majority seem to be full auto. The one I fired clearly had Colt M16A1 stamped on the mag well. And there appears to be other instances of some being three round bursts. Personally I think full auto on an M16 would be a waste because it is a long rifle and was meant to be for accurate aimed fire. Probably why they killed full auto in the M16A2.
As to the other morons, who have probably never shot a weapon in their life, they can shove their Janes books up their ass.
Hey, I researched and found that the majority seem to be full auto. The one I fired clearly had Colt M16A1 stamped on the mag well. And there appears to be other instances of some being three round bursts. Personally I think full auto on an M16 would be a waste because it is a long rifle and was meant to be for accurate aimed fire. Probably why they killed full auto in the M16A2.
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Freon was not talking about people who read. There are people here with miltary and combat exprience.
Hey we've all posted incorrect information at one time or an other (I know I have,) some of us learn not to use games as sources for information other's don't.
Back on topic, many of us would like to see a full auto version of the M16, be it a C7 or whatever, having the longer barrel (as opposed to the M4) can make a difference. Of course most times we're doing indoor work so you need something shorter and the mv doesn't matter as much.
Back on topic, many of us would like to see a full auto version of the M16, be it a C7 or whatever, having the longer barrel (as opposed to the M4) can make a difference. Of course most times we're doing indoor work so you need something shorter and the mv doesn't matter as much.
Would you prefer we have this?
"yo man i think we should be able to buy two of tmps or macs.... like the duals.... we can fire each gun with the left or right button, and if we wana fire them both we just press both buttons.... and it should be less accurate when you fire both..."
"yo man i think we should be able to buy two of tmps or macs.... like the duals.... we can fire each gun with the left or right button, and if we wana fire them both we just press both buttons.... and it should be less accurate when you fire both..."
Lol, you'll still going on. I said I researched it and seem to be wrong. The armourers may have been experimenting with the guns we had. It was from a national guard armory and vietnam era after all. You should learn to take the **** you spit out. And yes, maybe this is why you have such a small community. Besides, I think since that particular weapon has mostly been retired, it shouldn't show up in a modern warfare game. With no offense to Duke, who I think is an excellent weapons maker, I also think that futuristic weapons that have not been issued shouldn't be played either. My problem with the XM whatever ( can't remember what its called ) is that it has too many advantages over the other weapons and seems to be the only night vision item in the sim.
And since I hold 2 associate degrees in Science, and served in JROTC as an officer, maybe you should be more careful who you call an idiot.
And since I hold 2 associate degrees in Science, and served in JROTC as an officer, maybe you should be more careful who you call an idiot.
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Logan, sentences like this one only make things worse. Don't ever brag about anything here.Logan6 said:And since I hold 2 associate degrees in Science, and served in JROTC as an officer, maybe you should be more careful who you call an idiot.
oh stop picking on him. He admitted he was wrong...
For the record, I think we should just leave it with an M16A2, M16A4 and M4. Leave the other variants out.
For the record, I think we should just leave it with an M16A2, M16A4 and M4. Leave the other variants out.
He continiously shows disrespect to the people that have actually served this community for years. It's not 'picking on him', it's the logical responce to his comments.keihaswarrior said: