making big buildings and such

[NiftyBoy]

when you guys want to make something like a big facility with an outside area or an open map with something like a house in the middle, how do you plan out how big to make the compassing brush to subtract around everything?

sorry if ya didnt understand that

 

[afkik]

so in other words you just want a map with a building or something in the middle?

I just make a large outdoor area, and add to it the building easy as that, if thats what you are looking for

 

[Techno JF]

It can sometimes be a case of trial and error. You start by subtracting an area that you think will work. After you do a little building in it, you can then decide if it's too large or too small, and then to deal with this problem, you can subtract another area over the whole thing that you expect to be the right size. Then delete the original subtracted area, set the new area's brush order to be first, and rebuild.

 

[Major-Lee-High]

Just make a huge asz area and build your building floating in the air, then if you want people to be able to run around outside etc, make a new block!

I suggest making a bsp based block and making it about 128 tall, then pulling sections down etc and making nice terain!

Worked great for me!

 

[NiftyBoy]

*is a heretic 2 mapper* so could i also just start adding brushes and then subtract a big area around it, or would that in a sense delete the brushes i made?

 

[OshadowO]

Originally posted by MediocreTangerine
*is a heretic 2 mapper* so could i also just start adding brushes and then subtract a big area around it, or would that in a sense delete the brushes i made?

Bad idea. In uedthe void space you build in is actually solid. So you're subtracting stuff out. You could do what you mentioned but then you could not see your brushes, or texture them till you subtract the big area. What I do is make something larger than what I need and then later vertex edit it to size. The above methods also work as well but you need to remember to order your subtractionto first.

 

[NiftyBoy]

is there a way to clip brushes?

 

[The ultimate novice]

Yep! Use the brush clipping tools. (Don't ask me how, I never use them! )

 

[Machismo]

Originally posted by MediocreTangerine
is there a way to clip brushes?

Clipping sucks in the Ued. U dont find the easiness like in other quake engine games :tdown:

email marshall or something to make him make it better in 2.6 at least

 

[purice]

yeah, do a big open area and then add into it.

 

[LoTekK]

dude, nice terrain and skybox! :tup:

 

[purice]

thanks.

 

[Major-Lee-High]

That does look nice!

I had a HUGE snow map i made with terrain, im going to get it and let you guys see it! I got to go download it again!

 

[N3f]

wow nc terrain... what program did u use for that one?

 

[purice]

terraedit.
i imported one of the liquid textures in liquid.utx to terraedit, smoothed it down a bit, exported it as a t3d and then imported it to unreal.

 

[Voodoo_180]

Wow that terrain looks very nice :tup: wish i could do it like that... my attempts either have massive BSP holes streaking across them or look pretty sh1te

 

[The ultimate novice]

How did you pull off that sky?!

 

[purice]

Originally posted by The ultimate novice
How did you pull off that sky?!

you can't tell in the image, but i used a terraedit brush as the skybox. if you place the skyzoneinfo low enough in a valley you don't have to worry about the horizon. in this particular map you can see the horizon in a few spots.

 

[Machismo]

Originally posted by Voodoo_180
Wow that terrain looks very nice :tup: wish i could do it like that... my attempts either have massive BSP holes streaking across them or look pretty sh1te

www.qeradiant.com - q3rmanual has an explanation bu PaulJ on how id used bitmaps to gen terrain in q3r. nice techniques that i found pretty helpful to apply to terrain.

www.planetunreal.com/fordy/terra.htm - link to a tute.

@ purice good job with the terrain. looking SystemShock like quality.

 

[Voodoo_180]

chrs mach. i'll try it when i get home... currently i'm in a inet cafe in Hurghada - Egypt. i'm here scuba diving for a week, two dives per day, excellent weather, no clouds, no rain; bliss.

haha and you're not.