Inf poor counterstrike clone HL mod??

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VeetVooja

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The following article appeared in a dutch gaming magazine, in the section regarding mod's.

I've translated it to english, and it has been slightly shortened because i am very lazy. I've tried to convey the tone of the article, which seemed to be an air of "oh damn, another f*cking CS wannabe requiring me to stay at the office one more hour to fill up my section of the magazine"

(title: Infiltration, Half-Life mod)

Im almost sorry, but again I'm forced to review a sort of CS clone in this months modspot. Offcourse there is almost no escaping this, seeing as how 80% percent of all mods are more or less a CS clone. Again we are faced with two teams, who will fight each other in several different settings. Many kilo's of lead will be flying through the air and TK'ers will be making there appearance on the servers. It looks like Inf is just another really badly made modification.
Fortunately for Inf, there are some pro's.
Iron sight: now a very familiar feature it is also present in Inf.
Crouching and going prone are both possibilities and should bring a bit of variation to the game, or so the dev's hope.
Major weakness of the mod are the graphics. Unlike other comparable Half Life (???) mods the graphics are below standard. This is good for speed, but by now most gamers will have either a cable or ADSL connection anyway, so speed is not much of an issue anymore.

(end of article)

First things first, Inf a Half Life mod? I really must have missed something here, i demand to know when this was released. Obviously this secret half life mod is the reason you (the dev's) have kept us waiting so long for v2.9. And when will you be releasing the HL2 version of this mod, I demand release dates. ;)

Secondly, I realise that Inf just like CS concerns two teams with modern day guns battling it out in a wide variety of settings. In this respect Inf is obviously a CS clone. Shame on you dev team. While we are at it, i would also like to flame the person(s) who invented the various ball games (eg soccer, football, rugby) played around the world. You should be severly punished for your lack of imagination which has now trapped millions world wide, obviously all ballgames are clones. :stupid:

The magazine who published this article, PC Zone benelux, is a large, and respected gaming magazine. More than once editors comment on the apparent habit of game journalists to just copy stuff straight out of the press kit, and subsequently writing a story which suggests the journalist has previewed the game personally and hands on. This Inf article should prompt them to take a look at their own journalists. The way it is written suggests to me the writer has not only never played the game (or sucked big time at it) but has barely taken the effort to read the website properly.

I plan to write a letter to pc zone, so that at least the most blatant error (inf a HL mod) may be corrected. And that they should try and take a look at the Inf gameplay, and find out for themselves that it is a bit different from CS gameplay. To say the least.

Lastly i have a question.
The article also mentions the incorporation of aiming via iron sights. Now I think i first came into contact with inf when it was at version 1.75 (if that is possible at least, im not very good with numbers/dates/names etc etc., it was for the original Unreal, when Inf still had that rather nice AT4 :) )
The way the article talks about the incorporation of iron sights seems to suggest that Inf just jumped aboard the iron sight train because everybody else seems to be doing it. My question is: Was infiltration the first game to feature fully working iron sights?

source for article: PC Zone Benelux DVD edition, nr 80, may 2004,
information: www.pczone.nl
btw i am not aware of any affiliation between pczone benelux and the english gaming magazine PCzone. So if you are inclined to flame PC zone, flaming pczone.co.uk will have you burning down the wrong house.

this message has now been edited at least five times to correct any and all grammar errors, incorrect statements, obvious lies, rush tactics, and allegations of the possesion of WMD's by certain countries.
<edit> Make that six. Fixed "crouchning" grammar bug, and added one "it" for balance purposes :D
 
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lol, reminds me why i don't buy magazines anymore :tup:

1. hidden and dangerous had iron sights before inf iirc, but other then this inf was the first game to use them, quite some time before ofp and aa (pretty much the only games using irons that come to my mind).

2. counterstirike was released after inf, so anybody is a clone it is cs.

3. halflife has better graphics then ut? yeah, right...

i find it funny how he thinks of croching and proning as "maybe usefull features" and calls the graphics substandard (compared to "32x32 pixles are enough for a walltexture"-halflife) for performance reasons that aren't up to date anymore because of better internet connections. wtf have graphics to do with lag?


conclusion:
1. he didn't even play it at all. ok, maybe he had an offline run around a single map, but he didn't play it.
2. that performance thing he said is quite... odd
3. that guy is a morron.



hope that helps :)
 
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ant75

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When he says "Unlike other comparable Half Life (???) mods the graphics are below standard" i think he really means "Compared to Half Life (???) mods the graphics are below standard". So i don't think he's saying Inf is made for HL (but really i can't tell for sure since it's a translation).

Inf is really a game that takes some time to get familiar with, i wouldn't be surprised if this guy just installed Inf without tweaking his video settings, hopped on a tdm server, played of few rounds and decided he's made up his mind about it. Don't mind that type of people.

On the ironsight thing, serpentine had them before Inf.
 

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VeetVooja, you should give us the author email address. I'll write him as well.
I don't know how it works over there, but here in france if somebody writes bull**** about you in a magazine they have to publish your side of the story :)

A few months ago a few magazine made a "review" of Infiltration, and they mentioned a skill system :lol:
 
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Mod pour Half Life 2, c'est a dire c'est une mod pour Half Life 2. ;)
And there aren't any Screens available atm.

Yeah I also do not buy any magazines, they are just a waste of money. They are writing about "realism", but what they call realism is CS or even worse, if you show them a game like INF then they'd say that it's too slow, that there are too many campers and that you should play CS, because it is much better bla bla bla *headshot*

Edit: Btw.: Thank You! You "enlisted" ;) here only to tell us this!
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VeetVooja

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Some personal notes pertaining to the reply's to my original post, written mostly to reassert myself :)

Falke said:
Here the link again
http://hl-infiltration.halflifexpert.com/
It's a French mod for Halflife with the same name.

The title mentioned the correct infiltration website url (infiltration.sentrystudios.net). Along with the article two screenshots were printed which appeared to be inf 2.9 shots.
Then again the title also stated that Inf is a HalfLife mod, and therefore the title should perhaps not be considered to be a source of correct information and/or sound medical advice.

<edit> i just found out the two screenshots printed alongside the article are actually shot0049.jpeg and shot0050.jpeg, both of which can be found in the "action shots" section in the media section of the infiltration HQ section in the medial left menu section of the website. Am i still making any sense here? :cheers: on a personal note: shot0050.jpeg, ok if you are completely unfamiliar with Inf (for UT) and believe infiltration is a HL mod i suppose this pic looks sort of like a HL engine generated screen. But shot0049.jpeg looks nothing like a HL engine screen, the character models/textures are just not HL engine-like. <edit>

could you try and miss me grim_reaper :D

(totally unrelated) btw freon, the bit in your sig about dichlorodifluoromethane caught my attention on the count of it being a really weird thing to have in a sig. The page it refers to contains a rather intelligent statement i cant help but quote:

Though industry favors CFCs because they are non-toxic, CFCs are primarily responsible for depletion of the earth's stratospheric ozone layer, which shields life on earth from harmful ultraviolet radiation.

Known and suspected effects of ozone depletion include increased skin cancer, eye disorders (such as cataracts and retinal damage), suppression of human immune systems, harm to aquatic systems and biological organisms, exacerbation of smog in some urban areas, and degradation of some plastics and paints. Conditions aggravated by exposure to ultra-violet radiation include nutritional deficiencies, infectious diseases and autoimmune disorders


source : www.nsc.org (national safety council) you should really visit, its national door and window safety week...

Industry considers CFS's to be non-toxic huh, obviously the journalist who wrote the Inf article is also an industry executive :D
 
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zeep

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I hate it when people just publish shait. Readers will asume this guys knows what he is talking about when in reality, this guy should apologize for his birth.
Or better yet,,
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oh and thanks for posting dude ;)