I just saw it, you know what im talking about....
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alien8
Run, you magnificent bastard.
I loved Revolutions. I also loved Reloaded - moreso even than the first one. There, I said it 
I appreciate more than anything how the ending, and the storyline, isn't just spoonfed to us. I walked out of the theatre being a bit disappointed with Revolutions, but the more I sat back and thought about it, the more I appreciated the utter genius of it.
Maybe the key to the last 2 Matrix movies was not to view them as just entirely action flicks...
I appreciate more than anything how the ending, and the storyline, isn't just spoonfed to us. I walked out of the theatre being a bit disappointed with Revolutions, but the more I sat back and thought about it, the more I appreciated the utter genius of it.
Maybe the key to the last 2 Matrix movies was not to view them as just entirely action flicks...
I loved the way reloaded opened up questions that I expected to be resolved and answered in Revolutions, so in watching Releaded I left satisfied and wanting more.
Revolutions was supposed to be the final installment, meaning it would answer all my questions and tie up all the loose ends with a well written ending, right? Wrong. They left me feeling like they rushed the ending (Or like Stallown said to me, 'we've only got three bucks left in the budget, lets finish this thing boys')! If there is no 4th movie to tie up all the loose ends, then this movie was a waste of my time and money. I know the Movie will make a killing and all those involved will get fat paychecks, but they left this fan feeling duped and ripped off.
btw, Spineblaze, Cookies are good!
Revolutions was supposed to be the final installment, meaning it would answer all my questions and tie up all the loose ends with a well written ending, right? Wrong. They left me feeling like they rushed the ending (Or like Stallown said to me, 'we've only got three bucks left in the budget, lets finish this thing boys')! If there is no 4th movie to tie up all the loose ends, then this movie was a waste of my time and money. I know the Movie will make a killing and all those involved will get fat paychecks, but they left this fan feeling duped and ripped off.
btw, Spineblaze, Cookies are good!
IBB!!!
Im not reading anything said in this thread cos i havent seen the film yet, but
I LOVE YA MAN!!! WELCOME HOME!!! *huggles*
Im not reading anything said in this thread cos i havent seen the film yet, but
I LOVE YA MAN!!! WELCOME HOME!!! *huggles*
I don't think that girl is all that hot... I liked the last set.
IBB has been lurking around for quite some time. "Lightning gun for EVERYBODY!"
IBB has been lurking around for quite some time. "Lightning gun for EVERYBODY!"
I liked the look of the machines floating around like a school of fish, especially when in 'passive' mode...guess I owe the 'Osiris' short for breaking me in to accepting that visual.
why didn't they have one of those EMP dealys installed at the docks to stop them little talibans from causin havoc?
[IsP]KaRnAgE said:
that's another thing:
was it Neo that actually beat him from the inside, or was it the machines using Neo as a conduit to take Smith out. I lean toward Neo using his "One-ness" to disable him from the inside, but you really didn't see very much conflict with the Neo/Smith clone, you just see the machines doin something to Neo while he's jacked in which raises the question of why don't the machines just use any of the other people Smith tookover?
alien8 said:I loved Revolutions. I also loved Reloaded - moreso even than the first one. There, I said it
I appreciate more than anything how the ending, and the storyline, isn't just spoonfed to us. I walked out of the theatre being a bit disappointed with Revolutions, but the more I sat back and thought about it, the more I appreciated the utter genius of it.
Maybe the key to the last 2 Matrix movies was not to view them as just entirely action flicks...
everyone is always used to a clear ending in a film or set of films. watch LOTR's if you want an ending to a trilogy.
So what if it doesn't end as you expect, just because your used to seeing the bad guys die, a reson finally explained a quest finished and a battle won doesn't mean the ending isn't an ending because its left open for people to question, what if?
I'll be going to see it not because i'm expecting a major obvious ending, but because i am a fan and want to see what happens......
actually, LOTR is kindof left open ended (bookwise) - but is debatable
Gandalf makes reference to Sauron and more powerful/chiefer evils in middle earth (ref Silmarillion) but a lieutenant of Morgoth. And though they won the war over the ring, there are more wars to come <-- but not necessarily to be fought by them, but a future generation. Sauron's boss.... woah....!
Destro7000
Beware the Apartment Emus
Hey, that guys been stealing paragraphs from a different reviewer. Gah, plagiarism!
Oh, and about the final killing of Smith. I reckon that as soon as I heard the Oracle say to Neo "Smith is you, etc" -it seemed obvious that to win Neo would have to kill himself (why he didn't do this earlier on in the film is beyond me, but I guess he had to organise the truce with the Machine 'Boss' thing)
so at the end battle, Smith's way around Neo killing himself is to just posess him, like all the other people - therefore Neo didn't die at that moment, he was just absorbed, keeping Smith alive. The blow came after he had absorbed Neo - when the Machine Boss (I refer to the spiky being in Zero-1 that Neo is plugged into) Kills Neo himself.
That's my theory. Neo did lose - but the machines were clever enough to dispose of Smith themselves.
What I found strange was how Smith was acting in the final battle... he goes "I've seen this, you were lying there and then I have to say something..." -etc. But then he stops and seems to lose his confidence, saying "No...this is wrong..."
(sorry, can't quote the script here, link might be useful!) and he acts as if he is displeased/ashamed that he is starting to act like a human again.
That was my first reaction to that - did anyone else think Smith was acting oddly in that scene?
One thing that I did enjoy was the beginning of the TrainStation scene, where they introduced what was supposed to be the Oracle's family - 3 'indian' (lol, if you can call software Indian) programs. I loved that scene for some reason - good acting (esp. the father) and it felt better than most of the other emotional scenes in the movie. Someone in the seats behind me was laughing their head off at the little girl for some reason. Baffling.
But to set up the whole TrainStation thing, then have a chase based around it, then introduce a new character working for the Merovingian, then do absolutley nothing with him - WTF was the point of that??!! Not to mention Neo was only stuck in the station so that Morph+Trin could have a fight scene in a night club and pick him up later.
Apart from the Indian family - the Train Station was so utterly pointless and hatable.
The Merovingian was an interesting character too, and I expected more of him and Persephone, but it feels like you only see them for 2 seconds and they give in to Trinity immediately. Ridiculous.
Okay, near the end of my massive Spoiler, here.
I guess I must give credit where credit's due to the APU battle. Awesome. Loved the whole thing with Lock (is he called Lock?) in the final APU playing King of the Hill with the enormous Shoal of Sentinels (how poetic
) that was very fun to watch.
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so at the end battle, Smith's way around Neo killing himself is to just posess him, like all the other people - therefore Neo didn't die at that moment, he was just absorbed, keeping Smith alive. The blow came after he had absorbed Neo - when the Machine Boss (I refer to the spiky being in Zero-1 that Neo is plugged into) Kills Neo himself.
That's my theory. Neo did lose - but the machines were clever enough to dispose of Smith themselves.
What I found strange was how Smith was acting in the final battle... he goes "I've seen this, you were lying there and then I have to say something..." -etc. But then he stops and seems to lose his confidence, saying "No...this is wrong..."
(sorry, can't quote the script here, link might be useful!) and he acts as if he is displeased/ashamed that he is starting to act like a human again.
That was my first reaction to that - did anyone else think Smith was acting oddly in that scene?
One thing that I did enjoy was the beginning of the TrainStation scene, where they introduced what was supposed to be the Oracle's family - 3 'indian' (lol, if you can call software Indian) programs. I loved that scene for some reason - good acting (esp. the father) and it felt better than most of the other emotional scenes in the movie. Someone in the seats behind me was laughing their head off at the little girl for some reason. Baffling.
But to set up the whole TrainStation thing, then have a chase based around it, then introduce a new character working for the Merovingian, then do absolutley nothing with him - WTF was the point of that??!! Not to mention Neo was only stuck in the station so that Morph+Trin could have a fight scene in a night club and pick him up later.
Apart from the Indian family - the Train Station was so utterly pointless and hatable.
The Merovingian was an interesting character too, and I expected more of him and Persephone, but it feels like you only see them for 2 seconds and they give in to Trinity immediately. Ridiculous.
Okay, near the end of my massive Spoiler, here.
I guess I must give credit where credit's due to the APU battle. Awesome. Loved the whole thing with Lock (is he called Lock?) in the final APU playing King of the Hill with the enormous Shoal of Sentinels (how poetic
) that was very fun to watch.[/RANTS]
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I saw it at 9:45am Central time on Wednesday morning and I loved it. I'm seeing it again tomorrow.
Bottom line: I love the movie for what it is and although many of you had expectations for how this triology should have ended, I did not.
(Just my opinon.)
Bottom line: I love the movie for what it is and although many of you had expectations for how this triology should have ended, I did not.
(Just my opinon.)
To put it bluntly, I loved the movie, it tied up all the loose ends, and ended how it should have.
Thanks.
The reason why smith died when he infected neo was one reason and one reason only, they wre the same entity, as it was mentioned numberous times in the movie, smith is the 'balancing of the equasion'. This was also made clear in the second movie as neo gained power, so did smith, and for each power that neo gained, smith gained aswell. So in the end, when the oracle told him that all beginings have an end, she was telling neo that the only way to finish it was how it started, by being merged with smith.
I didn't see any loose ends personaly, all were covered, and made sence. And about the ending... well who cares if it leaves an opening for another movie, even if they had closed the door tight, locked it up, and threw away the key, a sequal could and would be made, they would just have to find a possible loophole nomatter how stupid it was. The movie ended how it began, and that's how it was supposed to be.
I didn't see any loose ends personaly, all were covered, and made sence. And about the ending... well who cares if it leaves an opening for another movie, even if they had closed the door tight, locked it up, and threw away the key, a sequal could and would be made, they would just have to find a possible loophole nomatter how stupid it was. The movie ended how it began, and that's how it was supposed to be.
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I hated the movie
matrix 1 started so good...matrix 2 was a bit disappointing,but gave good opportunities...and matrix 3...bah
so many things made no sense:
-why is it a problem if there are just agend smiths in the matrix?
the tower where you can come to the architect is destroyed and agent smith makes energy too
-the matrix got restarted or something like that...are now the people back?
-where are the 2 ghosts from reloaded?
-how could neo see this golden things?and why did he saw agent smith with sunglasses?
-why has agent smith to be equal to neo?in the other versions of the matrix agent smith wasn't so powerful and there were no need to 'balancing of the equasion'
my opinion:
the battle for xion was nice,the fight in the matrix wasn't(to much cgi and dragon ball z-like...well...dragon ball z has better fights)
there were to many computer effects("we could make it with a stundman...no wait!lets do it with the computer so everybody can see that we have super technologies!!!"no pc can make as good effects as the reallity does...) and to many love scenes("oh,I see,you're in love" wtf?!!that has nothing to do with anything!!who cares?!!)
on the last scene I just tought:"wow..the sky couldn't be more gay...that isn't beatiful...and again the reallity owns the effects of the movie"
I could go on and on and on...
-why is it a problem if there are just agend smiths in the matrix?
the tower where you can come to the architect is destroyed and agent smith makes energy too
-the matrix got restarted or something like that...are now the people back?
-where are the 2 ghosts from reloaded?
-how could neo see this golden things?and why did he saw agent smith with sunglasses?
-why has agent smith to be equal to neo?in the other versions of the matrix agent smith wasn't so powerful and there were no need to 'balancing of the equasion'
my opinion:
the battle for xion was nice,the fight in the matrix wasn't(to much cgi and dragon ball z-like...well...dragon ball z has better fights)
there were to many computer effects("we could make it with a stundman...no wait!lets do it with the computer so everybody can see that we have super technologies!!!"no pc can make as good effects as the reallity does...) and to many love scenes("oh,I see,you're in love" wtf?!!that has nothing to do with anything!!who cares?!!)
on the last scene I just tought:"wow..the sky couldn't be more gay...that isn't beatiful...and again the reallity owns the effects of the movie"
I could go on and on and on...
matrix 1 started so good...matrix 2 was a bit disappointing,but gave good opportunities...and matrix 3...bah
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Went to see it for a second time last night.
Quite possibly the most cliche ridden script i've listened to in a loooong time
There must be about an hour from where the guy in the ship says "it's crawling with calamari" that is nothing but cliches. The whole "making shells" scene is quite possibly the most dire thing i've seen in a film these past two years.
But anyway, i did kinda enjoy it again, it's just not a very good film. All fanboy crap aside it's poor, bad acting, bad script (how the hell these guys wrote matrix 1 i have no idea), overblown effects. The special effects really detract from the enjoyment of the fights for me. They are very nice, i'd expect some sort of oscar nod for the awesome visual art in the movie, but i just felt really uninterested in watching a fight where all that seems to happen is two guys roll around in the air for a while then some manga inspired blast goes off when they hit each other.
Bleh, i'll shut up about it now. Go see Kill Bill instead
Quite possibly the most cliche ridden script i've listened to in a loooong time
There must be about an hour from where the guy in the ship says "it's crawling with calamari" that is nothing but cliches. The whole "making shells" scene is quite possibly the most dire thing i've seen in a film these past two years.
But anyway, i did kinda enjoy it again, it's just not a very good film. All fanboy crap aside it's poor, bad acting, bad script (how the hell these guys wrote matrix 1 i have no idea), overblown effects. The special effects really detract from the enjoyment of the fights for me. They are very nice, i'd expect some sort of oscar nod for the awesome visual art in the movie, but i just felt really uninterested in watching a fight where all that seems to happen is two guys roll around in the air for a while then some manga inspired blast goes off when they hit each other.
Bleh, i'll shut up about it now. Go see Kill Bill instead
A few points of clarification, which I don't think spoil the movie:
The woman with the Merovingian in M3 is still Persephone, and is still the uber-hot Monica Bellucci.
And the dude in the APU, who says "if we have to give our lives, we'll give them hell before we do!" is Captain Mifune, not Lock, tho I think the two could have been the same character and not hurt the story, in fact, it may have helped.
Like I said, these aren't spoilers if you've seen ANY of the trailers. It's just a matter of who was in the movie.
The woman with the Merovingian in M3 is still Persephone, and is still the uber-hot Monica Bellucci.
And the dude in the APU, who says "if we have to give our lives, we'll give them hell before we do!" is Captain Mifune, not Lock, tho I think the two could have been the same character and not hurt the story, in fact, it may have helped.
Like I said, these aren't spoilers if you've seen ANY of the trailers. It's just a matter of who was in the movie.
That's about how I saw the movie too. The reviewer was right about one thing: The Fat One is never wrong. If you dig into Ebert's archives you'll find reviews to anime like GitS and Metropolis. I dug around to see if he did Ninja Scroll... no such luck.