GeForce FX5700 / Radeon 9800SE / Radeon 9600PRO

[DDRRE]

By the way, if ure planning on getting a 9600pro, bear in mind that the pro-ez version is worse than normal pro. A list (in order of general goodness) :

--Good
9600xt
9600pro
9600pro-ez
9600
9600se
9600se-ez
--Bad

How worse?

 

[Slainchild]

How worse?

I think the clock-rates go down about 50mhz, but i'm not sure about any other specs they change. But they are cheaper

 

[FireSlash]

As far as the 9600s go, I would put the XT under the PRO, since it doesn't do much better (last time I checked, 1-2 frames) and its a whole lot more expensive.

 

[Niaad]

Hey my brother says I should get the 9600......not the 9800...He said the benchmark tests are better for the 9600....Is this true?

Your brother has no idea what he's talking about.

 

[Metakill]

According to that chart, there is not much difference between the 9600 PRO and the 9800 SE.

 

[neilthecellist]

Really?

Solid Squall said that "ATI is rubbish." I don't whether to agree or not. My brother says nVidia f***ed up their cards, but what about ATI? Is there a difference between their cards? Should I just get the one that's cheaper?

 

[Metakill]

Bah! It's coke and pepsi. People who like the brand they use will attack the other brand with no justification. INVIDIA tends to run better in OpenGL, ATI tends to run better for DirectX. ATI updates their drivers every month, with nice customization control panels. Many card makers provide overclocking utilities.

Considering the 9600 PRO is an "EZ" (why do they need to keep adding suffixes?), I'd consider the 9800, but overall, they perform about the same. I'm in a similar situation, deciding which new card to buy. I'm torn between a 9600 XT or 9800 (non SE). If I could find a 9700 or 9500, I would probably buy one. They are both better than the 9600.

Too many products!!!!

 

[neilthecellist]

Ok should I get the 9600 or a Nvidia card like 6800? But I don't have engouh power, I have a 250 watt power supply.

 

[Solid Squall]

Ok should I get the 9600 or a Nvidia card like 6800? But I don't have engouh power, I have a 250 watt power supply.

You do not need extra power for ATIs new X800XT platinum edition so if you have the money....GET IT!!!!!

 

[neilthecellist]

oh ok.

 

[Solid Squall]

YES!!! I take back what I said about ATI having crap drivers because farcry and halo seemed to have been crashing because I was running 2 or 3 drivers at the same time. I never knew you had to unintall the old drivers and control panel. I have installed catalyst version 4.6 after uninstalling all the old drivers and now it works perfectly.
ATI is teh best11!!1 w00t1!!!1

 

[Akalamanaia]

I personally got Sapphire Radeon 9600 Pro Atlantis, runs UT2004 on max details,DX9 renderer device and DX9 toggled on without lag. , also runs FarCry without lag on max details.

 

[neilthecellist]

What resolution?

Like I've said countless times, I can only run UT2004 and all my other games at 640 X 480 resolution on medium or low details.

 

[Akalamanaia]

1024x768.

 

[neilthecellist]

Cool. Wish i had your video card.

 

[SanitysEdge]

Id say wait for the prices to drop which should be very soon and get a 9800XT

 

[rhirud]

128 vs 256 MB.

How much of a difference does it make?

 

[ReLiK]

I could be very wrong about this, but i read somewhere that 256MB on a 9600 series is a little wasted because it doesn't run the games requiring that much video memory all that well anyway (partly to do with only having 4 pixel shaders).

I would assume that this is less relevent on the 9800 series which does have the raw power necessary.

 

[neilthecellist]

My brother says DON'T GET 256 MB of video memory. He says it's kind of a waste.

 

[hyrulian]

It is a waste. By the time we have games that actually need 256MB of VRAM, the GPU will already be underpowered.