Evolution or Creation?

[O.S.T]

when we die we will find out if Mr.Magnetichead or W0RF was right
if I'm right, we will never find out

 

[Mr.Magnetichead]

We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free.

 

[Mr.Magnetichead]

If we assume that the flood was global, it still wouldn't raise the water level high enough to cover everything. However, if we assume it was local, a flood that put the Mesopotamian Plain under 20 feet of water would flood that area enough that from Noah's vantage point, the water level horizon would be about 8 miles away. Moreover, even the taller mountains would not be visible at a distance of over 50 miles. So from Noah's standpoint, there would nothing but water in every direction.

Further, we have traced humanity's roots back about 30,000 years, when we branched out from... the Mesopotamian Plain. Which also happens to be the only place on earth that bears any evidence that such a massive flood ever took place in humans' brief history on the earth.

If God sent the flood to cleanse the earth of man's rampant wickedness, he would not have had to flood any other part of the earth to accomplish such a task. Therefore, there would be no need to bring animals from outside that region.

Yeah and let's not forget about the inbreeding!

Seeing as we're all brothers and sisters right?

I mean it was gods will to wipe out the wicked element of humanity 'see anyone other than noah, his sons/brothers and their wives'

I mean because if there were ANY other survivors, even one, that persons existance would be against gods.

According to the bible it is impossible to do anything against gods will seeing as he is ALL powerful.

So either your god has a REALLY high opinion of himself or we are all incestious.

Which would you prefer?.

Oh yeah and let's not get started on race or anything, because after we the flood we all know that we all just painted ourselves different colours.

 

[W0RF]

Bwahahaha. Why, is he going to Hell? Could our Worf actually be unequivocally condemning heresy for once?

For once? What makes you think I'm not offended by every other Jesus-bashing that goes on here? Just because I don't make it a point to object to them all doesn't mean I wouldn't appreciate just the tiniest modicum of respect from some people. I just know better than to expect so much.

Apparently that's too much to ask of certain people whom I will not dignify with any further response to their drivel.

:edit: btw Sam, the Virgin Birth is a different concept than the Immaculate Conception that metakill was talking about. I didn't think it important at first to point that out but now that they are starting to get crossed over, I think they need to be made distinct again.

Oh yeah and let's not get started on race or anything, because after we the flood we all know that we all just painted ourselves different colours.

OK I lied, I will respond to this one point because it demonstrates that reading comprehension is not a prerequisite for this forum. Read above, Mag. Humanity spread from the Mesopotamian Plain 30,000 years ago. That's not my opinion, that's a paleontological fact. So you're ranting and raving aside, the fact remains that whether God created humanity or not, all the races of man came from that place on earth at that point in time. So basically, you're not really mocking the Bible with this paragraph so much as mocking a pretty basic fact of human history. gg :tup:

 

[Mr.Magnetichead]

OK I lied, I will respond to this one point because it demonstrates that reading comprehension is not a prerequisite for this forum. Read above, Mag. Humanity spread from the Mesopotamian Plain 30,000 years ago. That's not my opinion, that's a paleontological fact. So you're ranting and raving aside, the fact remains that whether God created humanity or not, all the races of man came from that place on earth at that point in time. So basically, you're not really mocking the Bible with this paragraph so much as mocking a pretty basic fact of human history. gg :tup:

Paleontological fact? You accept that perticuler paleontological fact but you dismiss the dinosaurs, the evolutionary stages of pre homoerectus man and the actualy age of the planet?

Wow....Just....wow.

 

[W0RF]

Paleontological fact? You accept that perticuler paleontological fact but you dismiss the dinosaurs, the evolutionary stages of pre homoerectus man and the actualy age of the planet?

I don't know. Do I?

There are two rather large posts on this thread that discuss what I accept and dismiss, if you're really interested in what people other than yourself think. Based on your tone of ridicule, though, I doubt you'll bother to find out. Which is too bad for you, really, because I'm not responding to anything else you say until I have some indication that you actually know WHAT I think and WHY, instead of just setting up strawmen in the absence of explanations which I actually made a point to post.



:edit: forgot to mention, man didn't come from neanderthals

 

[[IsP]KaRnAgE]

I think this thread has run its course.. unless someone has some new scientific break throughs they'd like to share...

 

[Mr.Magnetichead]

I've read your posts, I'm seeing whether you're consistent..

You're all over the place tbh.

 

[W0RF]

you're not "seeing whether I'm consistent" because you're putting words in my mouth, which I did not say, and which you can see quite easily that my own beliefs are a far cry from what you're posting here.

In the meantime, don't come here with posts about being raped by God and incest and dinosaurs in three different posts, and tell me I'm all over the place.

You want to find out what I think, ask me, and knock off the bullcrap.

 

[O.S.T]

worf, come on
seriously, who gives a sh't?

 

[Mr.Magnetichead]

you're not "seeing whether I'm consistent" because you're putting words in my mouth, which I did not say, and which you can see quite easily that my own beliefs are a far cry from what you're posting here.

In the meantime, don't come here with posts about being raped by God and incest and dinosaurs in three different posts, and tell me I'm all over the place.

You want to find out what I think, ask me, and knock off the bullcrap.

Yeah I've bought up 3 different topics and yet you havn't responded to them.

 

[Hunter]

Well at work yesturday a middle page spread in the Telegraph (i think) expalining how our universe was a bubble alongside other bubbles (= parellel universes) and that black holes are the joins between them meaning there could be white holes where stars swallowed would re-appear.

Was an interesting read...

 

[Mr.Magnetichead]

Well at work yesturday a middle page spread in the Telegraph (i think) expalining how our universe was a bubble alongside other bubbles (= parellel universes) and that black holes are the joins between them meaning there could be white holes where stars swallowed would re-appear.

Was an interesting read...

White hole theory is a very very interesting one.

 

[Dark[NSF]]

I've created a monster!

 

[MÆST]

What's all that confetti around its butt for?

 

[Mr.Magnetichead]

Exploding Christians.

 

[Sam_The_Man]

For once? What makes you think I'm not offended by every other Jesus-bashing that goes on here? Just because I don't make it a point to object to them all doesn't mean I wouldn't appreciate just the tiniest modicum of respect from some people. I just know better than to expect so much.

Jesus-bashing? Stop trying to divert the issue, Worf, especially to the old chestnut of 'Wah wah the biggest coherent human grouping on the planet is being oppressed'.

She was raped though. If God is or was as portrayed as he was in the Bible as this amazing all powerful creator or everything that was is and ever shall be, then how can he expect a small teenage girl to understand what she was letting herself in for.


That's right folks, God was a kiddy ****ing pedophille.

Maghead said that God was a paedophile and a rapist. Jesus was never even mentioned. In the absence of any other reason, I have to assume your condemnation was on grounds of heresy.

I found that interesting as you seem to me to be one of those rubber Christians, one iota more tolerant of other versions of God as you can be without being seen as an outright fanatic. This is the first time I can remember that I've seen you condemn a blasphemous belief outright entirely on dogmatic grounds.

If I've got it wrong, please feel free to tell me what the real problem with Maghead's statement was.

 

[Hunter]

White hole theory is a very very interesting one.

Yeah it ends up leading on to wormholes and some of them being very small. Gave me a good 30minute read and I spent the rest of the day thinking about it.

It ended up going on about how the sun will burn out and if these black holes are very small using nanobots to go through and re-create the creators of them and starting human life again....

 

[PsychoMoggieBagpuss]

The whole point about black holes is that because gravity is so intense that nothing (not even light) can escape it. Everything passing into it is crushed and there are just trace amounts of radiation emitted.
Then you start getting into superstring theory at which point I develop a headache and go home.

 

[O.S.T]

Then you start getting into superstring theory at which point I develop a headache and go home.

you woun't get into superstring theory
you only get into superstring theory if noone knows
the superstring theory can explain so many things, because it's like hendrik schön's work: wrong and it modified the reality to work(the world has 10 dimensions, even if some russians already calculated that it's impossible to have more than 3? naw)
namu once explained exactly why it's wrong in one of his posts, but I haven't seen him here for a long time