Draganov, m4, Sig 226,

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Grahamdcarter

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I would like to say the big weapons like the berrets and these huge weapons I don't think we need that. I really like the way the mod looks right now but I'd like to see the half completed weapons done, espeically the m4, maybe one more sniper riffle like a draganov, and one more hand gun like a sig 226 but thats it after that i think we need more maps, sniper friendly maps :) Give me some feed back I'm totally down to hear about what you guys think
 

SaraP

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The only "big rifle" currently in Infiltration is the Robar RC-50, and they're unlikely to add any other anti-material rifles. Especially not a semiautomatic one like the Barrett M82; even with bulk and barrel collision limiting its effectiveness, an M82 would be ridiculously uber and nearly impossible to balance without compromising realism.

Oh, and it's Dragunov SVD, not "Draganov". I'm a picky speller.
 

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I'm in a hurry, 3 quick tips:
1) SEARCH
2) if you want to know what the community thinks about certain weapons, ask it in general if you want to know how it would be like in game or in off topic if you want to know about the weapon in real life.
3) if you do post in new version suggestions, try to give as many pro's and cons yourself. Just spouting out an idea and letting others talk about it is not the right way to start a thread.
 

jaunty

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It can't be any worse a trend than posting stupid threads that have nothing to do with anything, requestings stupid weapons that have no place in game, and filling off-topic with your crap.

Now, there's already a 3 page weapon thread going, so I must ask the question

WHY THE FUCK DOES THIS THREAD EVEN EXIST!?

P.S Stop asking for boring weapons that've already been done a billion times. It's like watching bad reruns on TV. There's nothing cool, clever, or even good about an M4, Dragunovs are over rated by dipshits like you because they have a cool sounding name, and the Sig, unless it's the .357 version, is out done by a whole heap of other 9mm pistols. Go away.
 
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jaunty

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n00b = failed abortions who need to be destroyed
newbies = new people.

Which one did you mean, and which one do you think I classify this idiot as?
 

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and people wonder why the community has almost left or not participated in the process. I am not picking a fight jaunty really, just think your being a bit harsh to a new player and lets face it 2.9 is new to a bunch of folks as are the invisible forum rules that you all live by. Maybe cut the guy a break..

or I can go **** myself either one
 

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Another automatic sniper rifle which fires a round so similar to the PSG really wouldn't be a helpfull addition. It'd be basically the same but with different skin. It'd be an awfull lot of work for not much gameplay improvment. You'd need to have a weapon that really "spiced" up gameplay but wouldn't unbalnce it. With the PSG being a one shot kill weapon (at least it seems to be against the bots with full armor on) it seems the only "gap" in weapon selection would be something Lighter than the PSG that would be balanced by either being weak, or by being bolt action similar to the robar. So if your going to throw out suggestions do some research first... For example

The lightest bolt action (that i could find) chambered in 7.62 Nato is the Steyr-Mannlicher SSG-69, which is a military/police/commerical sniper rifle that was offered with a special short barrel, and could be fited with a supressor and fired from a 5 or 10 round mag. It's slightly heavier than the Famas (in it's standard length form, not sure about the shorter barrel version).

Now that's not to say i'm suggesting that it as a New weapon request, i'm just saying that with a little research you could have some information to back up a suggestion.. other wise it just sounds like your saying "i want this because i think it's cool" which as i'm sure you've noticed doesn't go over very well around here.
 

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The SVD while being a decent "sniper" rifle is not that good a "precision" rifle. The above mentioned Steyr product is by far superior. The SVD does look "neat", but it's role is well filled by the PSG 1 in my opinion..

The M-4/XM177E2/GAU-5 or whatever it turns out to be, I could live without. Is a short M-16 that exciting?

Why a SiG 226? The M-9 works fine in this application. Why not something really bizarre, like a Chicom Type 64, or maybe the truly strange MBA Gyrojet..

Two bits worth of opinion. No more, no less.

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Meplat said:
The SVD while being a decent "sniper" rifle is not that good a "precision" rifle.

Meplat-

It IS that good. Only if it´s russian and looks like AK it doesn`t mean it´s crappy on distance and is for throwing in mud only. It has a full rifle round (7.62x54), the barrel is very long and the scope is a real scope, not the AK sight. So it´s very precision (and looks cool :) ).
 

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The Dragunov was never intended to be a sniper rifle; it's a marksman's rifle issued to selected front-line infantry with above-average shooting skills (which is why it has a bayonet) to provide regular light-infantry forces with a medium-range precision-fire capability. The U.S. Marine Corps has been considering doing the same thing by re-adopting the M14 as a Designated Marksman's Rifle.
 

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jaunty said:
the Sig, unless it's the .357 version, is out done by a whole heap of other 9mm pistols. Go away.

Huh? The 226 is a damn fine full frame 9mm pistol. I'd definitely buy one if I didn't already have a 228.

And also, Bunkers as a sniper map? That makes me chuckle. Damned thing is so small. I'd always end up doing much better trying to do CQB in the trenches and getting shot in the back when I tried to snipe. Of course, I only played this map in 1 on 1 against a die hard Rogue Spear fan to get him to play, which was pretty much the reason I made it. :)
 

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And also, Bunkers as a sniper map? That makes me chuckle. Damned thing is so small. I'd always end up doing much better trying to do CQB in the trenches and getting shot in the back when I tried to snipe. Of course, I only played this map in 1 on 1 against a die hard Rogue Spear fan to get him to play, which was pretty much the reason I made it. :)
When I used to play it on the public servers it was vanilla 2.86, so of course it was usually 12-20 players and everyone would start out strafing and dodging around behind the windows and buildings picking eachother off with Robars, then they would whip out their MP5's and AKMSU's and broom the trenches once the dust settled. Occasionally, people would charge the trenches early, but then it was more a matter of sniping them off quick before they got within spraying range rather than trying to spray them back.
 

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Psychomorph-*Shrugs* One post claimed two MOA. That's about right. A well maintained M1903 will do that with iron sights, and M2 ball. A GOOD precision rifle, such as the PSG-1 will do sub MOA groups with decent ammo, and I'd bet MOA with service ball.

The SVD is not a precision rifle. It's a front line issue harassment, and interdiction weapon. I never said it was "Crappy", just not what it's advertised as. You want a NEAT combloc weapon ? Try a PKM, or a Stechkin APS. THOSE are impressive. The SVD was a much hyped disappointment in my experience.

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w00p

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I seriously ask why new version suggestions exists... :rolleyes:
Nothing here is read by team members, nor thought about, nothing here is serious, this is just a few threads filled with the dumb example and the insightfull who tell him he's an idiot and should jump out of a window on the 10th floor.

This section of the forum is nothing but a resort for the newer guys to gain their bad first impressions, and for anyone who had a bad day or a grumpy mood and is seeking to get rid of his anger.

Seriously, either put it in red or some other bright colour in the short description of the section when you're in the root infiltration forum, that weapon suggestions are forbidden by punishment of locking, on repeated felony's RO and anal abuse.
 

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SaraP said:
. The U.S. Marine Corps has been considering doing the same thing by re-adopting the M14 as a Designated Marksman's Rifle.

And That M14 DMR system saw/ is seeing action is Afghanistan i believe. Whether on a test basis or not i'm not sure. I got some pics of it.
 

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@Meplat:
Ok, you´re right Dragunov is not as good as a real sniperrifle.

w00p said:
I seriously ask why new version suggestions exists... :rolleyes:
Nothing here is read by team members, nor thought about, nothing here is serious, this is just a few threads filled with the dumb example and the insightfull who tell him he's an idiot and should jump out of a window on the 10th floor.
Lol right, that´s why I finnished with all my Ideas in this Forum. Th Devs. definitely read those posts, but they just pick up what is interessting to them (it is their good right), but it makes no longer any sense for me to spend my expensive time for suggestions which nobody cares about.
INF should be like the Devs. whant to have it, no matter if I like some things, or not. If I´ll have the chance to be in a Mod team, I will use my genious ideas, muahahah.

@ecale3:
Wow, never saw an M14 with a pistolgrip, looks very fine. Anyway, the M14 is one of the most good looking guns (like those old, woodisch guns).
 
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