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Cat Fuzz

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Eyuva 'S' NRG said:
80% of the Atlantic Ocean was 2-7 degrees warmer than average this year, which is partly responcible for the unusually STRONG hurricane season. Many news stations were talking about it, especially on the WEATHER CHANNEL. Who would know more about warming than *cough*, the weather channel.

I bet you dont hear that on Fox News. As you guys can see, I clearly DONT like Fox News.

When you get proper sources from knowledgable people on the subject. Hint : Politicians and political pundits aren't good sources for climacticalogical data. I can think for myself, but I'm going to adhere to TRUTH and FILTER BS.

Right wingers dont have a BS filter, which is their main failing.


I find it hilarious that people who think that the Earth is billions of years old get their panties in a wad over a little climate change. It's not gonna stay the same forever and ever.
 
Cat Fuzz said:
The so-called faulty intellegence used as a basis for invading Iraq went beack to the Clinton years. Think back, delve into your memory and recall instance after instance of Clinton and his people calling for Saddam to be removed from power before he developed nukes. If Bush made a blunder you can also say that Clinton and his people did along with Congress.

Clinton didn't invade Iraq. Bush did that. Why should anyone blame Clinton for the actions Bush is making? Bush had his own reasons for invading Iraq and would have done it even if Clinton and Saddam had no problems.
 
Cat Fuzz said:
This, right here, tells me you do not understand Christianity. It's not about a reward system and doing good things to get into Heaven.

Yes it is.

Cat Fuzz said:
Humans can't be good enough to get into Heaven. It's impossible.

That's not what Jesus said.

Cat Fuzz said:
All you have to do is repent and believe in Jesus. It's not about rituals or laws or rules or God's great scoring system.

Repenting is the key word. Repent means a lot of things. And Institutions that claim to be Christian don't do a very great job of making it not seem like a "do this and you'll get into heaven" policy.
 

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Mister_Prophet said:
Clinton didn't invade Iraq. Bush did that. Why should anyone blame Clinton for the actions Bush is making? Bush had his own reasons for invading Iraq and would have done it even if Clinton and Saddam had no problems.

BUSH DID NOT LIE, thats whats funny, like a textbook written by ultra left wing web sites.
 

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Mister_Prophet said:
Yes it is.

How do you figure?



That's not what Jesus said.

Oh, now what Jesus said counts to you? Jesus said "I am the Way the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except by Me"


Repenting is the key word. Repent means a lot of things. And Institutions that claim to be Christian don't do a very great job of making it not seem like a "do this and you'll get into heaven" policy.


This is why you need to study the various religions claiming to be Christianity. You seem to be reffering to SDA, LDS, JW or Catholics. These religions are very different and yet very similar to Christianity. Satan uses these and other false religions to confuse people and lead them away from Jesus.
 

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Mister_Prophet said:
Clinton didn't invade Iraq. Bush did that. Why should anyone blame Clinton for the actions Bush is making? Bush had his own reasons for invading Iraq and would have done it even if Clinton and Saddam had no problems.



Geez, I wish we could see the alternate timeline that has Bush doing nothing about Saddam. I can just hear Teddy :burp: Kennedy now calling Bush a coward for not doing anything when there is clear evidence of Saddams WMD's. He would be critisizing Bush as a do-nothing President as the danger of nuclear, chemical or biological attack looms on the horizon. :lol:

The intel was gathered during Clintons term. All of Clintons cronies agreed that something had to be done about Saddam. The ONLY difference is that Clinton did nothing in order to protect his legacy. Bush knows that doing the right thing is more important than popularity. Bush's legacy will be written later, when the long term effects of his actions come to fruition and the positive effects will become clear.
 
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Cat Fuzz said:
How do you figure?

The idea is simple, be a good person and believe and you will go to paradise. How is that not a reward system? Be good little urchins and you'll get a present.




Cat Fuzz said:
Oh, now what Jesus said counts to you? Jesus said "I am the Way the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except by Me"

If I could find my bible I'd do some quoting too. But basically Jesus's whole bag was "have faith in what I say and be good to one another and you will be rewarded in the afterlife". That and the love my neighbor stuff.



Cat Fuzz said:
This is why you need to study the various religions claiming to be Christianity. You seem to be reffering to SDA, LDS, JW or Catholics. These religions are very different and yet very similar to Christianity.

They are all forms of Christianity. I HAVE researched most of them and each one claims to be the closest-to-the-mark edition of Christianity. And each one of them says this:

Cat Fuzz said:
Satan uses these and other false religions to confuse people and lead them away from Jesus.

Well Catholics believe in Jesus too...but not quite the same way as you...so they are confused, right? Listen, all of these types say the same thing "no the dudes are off the mark, we're more correct". I can only hear it a hundred or so times before my belief fades. Now unless God comes down from heaven and tells me which one to follow, I'm not going to listen to another person tell me which religion is correct.

And I think a Satan that uses a similar concept of your Christianity except for a few extra rituals and some Saints to confuse people is a pretty lame arch nemesis of God. I mean at least make him sound like Malabolgia from Spawn or Gabriel Byrnes from End of Days to make him just a little more sinister. I mean, c'mon Cat he's supposed to be the BIG bad guy, the King Koopa of evil things everywhere. You're telling me he's sitting in the underworld saying "I'll make them believe in this idea of Saints and maybe that they can marry more than one wife and totally screw God in the ass LOL!"
 
ReD_Fist said:
BUSH DID NOT LIE

Sure he did. All politicians lie, that's the whole point.

Cat_Fuzz said:
Geez, I wish we could see the alternate timeline that has Bush doing nothing about Saddam. I can just hear Teddy :burp: Kennedy now calling Bush a coward for not doing anything when there is clear evidence of Saddams WMD's. He would be critisizing Bush as a do-nothing President as the danger of nuclear, chemical or biological attack looms on the horizon.

Well I agree here, but I suspect any President..Democrat or Republican or otherwise...doing NOTHING after the nation was just attacked by terrorists (Multiply what Bush did in that Kindergarten class by a few months or a year) would be a sign of a do-nothing leader.



Cat_Fuzz said:
The intel was gathered during Clintons term. All of Clintons cronies agreed that something had to be done about Saddam. The ONLY difference is that Clinton did nothing in order to protect his legacy.

No. He was busy with things like...I dunno...getting head in the Oral Office.


Cat_Fuzz said:
Bush knows that doing the right thing is more important than popularity.
Bush's legacy will be written later, when the long term effects of his actions come to fruition and the positive effects will become clear.

That seems to be the "current" promise.
 

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Cat Fuzz said:
I find it hilarious that people who think that the Earth is billions of years old get their panties in a wad over a little climate change. It's not gonna stay the same forever and ever.
What’s “hilarious” is your tendency towards hyperbole. No one is suggesting the climate is static. “A little climate change” can have a huge impact and shouldn’t be overlooked. I’m not saying we need to store water and build bomb shelters, but we need to closely monitor the situation.

I posted a link about the average temp of the earth increasing by 1 degree Fahrenheit in the last century. That’s “a little climate change.” During the last 50 years, 87% of the Antarctic glaciers have retreated. That’s 200 out of the 244 now going backwards instead of forwards. http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/enviro/EnviroRepublish_1351195.htm

Since you think the earth is 5000 years old, here are data for you. Sea level is rising at around 2 mm a year, which is at a faster rate than over the last 5000 years. http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/Key_Topics/IceSheet_SeaLevel/

Global Warming Kicks In
The ocean current specialists have just found something else to worry about. Global warming may interfere with not just the North Atlantic currents, but may disrupt the entire system of ocean currents‚ affecting the entire world's weather. http://www.firstscience.com/site/articles/gribbin.asp
How many times have you heard the term “delicate balance” when people refer to earth? 2 mm a year seems like nothing, 1 degree temp change seems like nothing, but it could be a sign that the buffers built into the earth are failing. Think about it, if the earth buffers which moderate change began to fail, what would we see? We’d see changes starting to take place. Well, we are seeing changes starting to take place, and those changes are taking place within a century. Moreover, the changes have been more pronounced recently.
 

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QUALTHWAR said:
What’s “hilarious” is your tendency towards hyperbole. No one is suggesting the climate is static. “A little climate change” can have a huge impact and shouldn’t be overlooked. I’m not saying we need to store water and build bomb shelters, but we need to closely monitor the situation.

I posted a link about the average temp of the earth increasing by 1 degree Fahrenheit in the last century. That’s “a little climate change.” During the last 50 years, 87% of the Antarctic glaciers have retreated. That’s 200 out of the 244 now going backwards instead of forwards. http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/enviro/EnviroRepublish_1351195.htm

Since you think the earth is 5000 years old, here are data for you. Sea level is rising at around 2 mm a year, which is at a faster rate than over the last 5000 years. http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/Key_Topics/IceSheet_SeaLevel/

Global Warming Kicks In
The ocean current specialists have just found something else to worry about. Global warming may interfere with not just the North Atlantic currents, but may disrupt the entire system of ocean currents‚ affecting the entire world's weather. http://www.firstscience.com/site/articles/gribbin.asp
How many times have you heard the term “delicate balance” when people refer to earth? 2 mm a year seems like nothing, 1 degree temp change seems like nothing, but it could be a sign that the buffers built into the earth are failing. Think about it, if the earth buffers which moderate change began to fail, what would we see? We’d see changes starting to take place. Well, we are seeing changes starting to take place, and those changes are taking place within a century. Moreover, the changes have been more pronounced recently.


WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT
 
Cat Fuzz said:
WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT

Says who? If we can put a man on the moon I'm sure there is something we can at least do to try to quell the rate at which it increases, maybe even limiting our own addition to the stress.

I'm not talking something like the laser sky from Highlander 2, but do we really need millions of rich white bitches driving SUVs around?
 

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I ain't gettin into it, drill a big ass oil well right in the middle of new orleans, far as I,m concerned.
It's too fricking cold out anyway, I want global warming NOW, but too bad they have NO evidence, so I will freez more in this cold ass air and snow.

I allready posted links and some FACTS , but they know it all allready.
(the only globe they are warming is the one between thier ears)
 

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If these changes are manmade, then man is the cause and man can quit doing what he's doing to correct the problems. The problem is, most people don't care since some will be dead before things get out of hand.

We are the ones throwing pollution into the air. We are burning the trees like crazy. I drive about 60 miles to visit people now and then and the road I drive down is always changing. You’ll see areas where there are trees one month, and the next month the trees are gone. People build buildings and parking lots on these sites, then put up a few, small token trees up now and then. Those trees don’t do squat to clean up the air compared to all the ones they killed. All the carbon in those dead trees come out quicker than it would naturally and add to the greenhouse gases.

Water doesn’t run into the ground like it did before. It runs into sewers and the water table shrinks. The temperature of the city rises; hell, some cities have their own little weather system because of the heat retained from the asphalt and concrete. Phoenix is a good example. Phoenix is sinking from the weight of all the buildings, and its temperature has risen greatly from the heat retained. We are slowly damaging the only place we have to live. The only place our children and grandchildren have to live.
 

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QUALTHWAR said:
some cities have their own little weather system because of the heat retained from the asphalt and concrete. Phoenix is a good example. Phoenix is sinking from the weight of all the buildings, and its temperature has risen greatly from the heat retained. We are slowly damaging the only place we have to live. The only place our children and grandchildren have to live.

this is true.

it has been proven over and over that as a large storm system passes over a large city, that system will strengthen or weaken depending on the variables provided by the city.


but as far as GLOBAL warming, no.


LOCAL and GLOBAL are 2 different animals.


taking a thermal scan of NY says nothing about how NY is affecting everything on a GLOBAL scale.
 

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Yeah, I wasn’t suggesting that cities are creating weather patterns that affect the world. But it does show how mankind can change weather. 200 years ago, we might burn away enough land and create enough smoke to help rain along, but we didn’t really change the environment enough to conjure up reoccurring local weather patterns.
 

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Cat Fuzz said:
Satan uses these and other false religions to confuse people and lead them away from Jesus.
The enourmous variety of religions is (to my opinion) the main reason why there are that much atheïsts. Every religion has it's convincing (or less convincing) way to arrtract believers.
This one's not ment personally, but how can you be so certain that your way of christianity is more true than the catholic church or even the islam? If it's about belief, most catholics and muslims are truly convinced that their way is the right way. I don't think that God'd make a difference between catholic, baptist, angelican etc... It's merely a mixture of a certain culture and religion. All of them serve the same purpose.
 

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Cat Fuzz said:
I find it hilarious that people who think that the Earth is billions of years old get their panties in a wad over a little climate change. It's not gonna stay the same forever and ever.

^must be that Satan dude speaking out of you.